[RenegadeRows]

Hello,

I've just come off a cycle and finished PCT. I have the unfortunate side of stopping my AI (in pct) of having excess water weight, particularly in the chest area.

I was hoping to get some recommendations of a natural product to reduce estrogen (a small amount) enough to lose some water weight and enhance vascularity for the summer.

I would just buy a strong AI like 6-oxo, however since my hormone levels have been fluctuating for the past 3 months, well I wanted to keep things "natural". I wanted to stay away from any hormonal supplements for a few months.

The first thing that comes to mind is Resveratrol + Grape seed extract. Maybe somebody could chime in, as I'm not too familiar with resveratrol and it's mechanism of keeping estrogen at bay.

Thanks
RR

[Steveoph]

Plucked from AI's Stoked Writeup.
"
Trans-Resveratrol:
This compound is like sliced bread to the supplement industry. There are many different health benefits to come from resveratrol, but we picked it up for one in particular. Resveratrol is capable of modulating estrogenic receptors as well as controlling aromatase, giving it that One Two Punch for estrogen control.[2][3] Research has shown its estrogenic modulation capabilities to increase sperm production by stimulating the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis. [1]"


2.The red wine polyphenol resveratrol displays bilevel inhibition on aromatase in breast cancer cells. Wang Y, Lee KW, Chan FL, Chen S, Leung LK. Toxicol Sci. 2006 Jul;92(1):71-7. Epub 2006 Apr 11

3.Estrogenic and antiestrogenic properties of resveratrol in mammary tumor models.Bhat KP, Lantvit D, Christov K, Mehta RG, Moon RC, Pezzuto JM. Cancer Res. 2001 Oct 15;61(20):7456-63


I also remember GSE being a natural AI, and I would do some more digging but I've got to get back to MCAT studying. Just took a 3 hours break heh :S

[RenegadeRows]

Originally Posted by Steveoph

Plucked from AI's Stoked Writeup.
"
Trans-Resveratrol:
This compound is like sliced bread to the supplement industry. There are many different health benefits to come from resveratrol, but we picked it up for one in particular. Resveratrol is capable of modulating estrogenic receptors as well as controlling aromatase, giving it that One Two Punch for estrogen control.[2][3] Research has shown its estrogenic modulation capabilities to increase sperm production by stimulating the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis. [1]"


2.The red wine polyphenol resveratrol displays bilevel inhibition on aromatase in breast cancer cells. Wang Y, Lee KW, Chan FL, Chen S, Leung LK. Toxicol Sci. 2006 Jul;92(1):71-7. Epub 2006 Apr 11

3.Estrogenic and antiestrogenic properties of resveratrol in mammary tumor models.Bhat KP, Lantvit D, Christov K, Mehta RG, Moon RC, Pezzuto JM. Cancer Res. 2001 Oct 15;61(20):7456-63


I also remember GSE being a natural AI, and I would do some more digging but I've got to get back to MCAT studying. Just took a 3 hours break heh :S

Great post, and jsut what I was looking for. Reps!

[grila jujitsu]

also vit-c can be used as a AI. the dosage is at 2,000-3,000mg.

[JaredGalloway]

GSE(95percent) taken 500mgs three times per day...

[strategicmove]

Trans-Resveratrol is a great aromatase inhibitor. The only watch-out is that it has a low oral bioavailability. Just like chrysin. Nevertheless, resveratrol's oral availability has been shown to improve significantly when some co-factors/enhancers such as quercetin, Bioperine, and grape seed extract (itself a good aromatase inhibitor) are added. You might consider just getting Post Cycle Support or STOKED! and Grape Seed Extract, instead of buying resveratrol and grape seed extract separately.

[Botch]

Dude, check out I3C. 'Nuff said.

[thebigt]

some will argue the science behind it, but in the real world the dim in diesel test has always worked well for me. besides all the other bennies of taking it. dthc/stoked sounds like a good stack.

[ImJ2x]

Best suggestion ever: nicotine (patches or gum).
I just eradicated some Superdrol delayed gyno with oral ATD (Novedex) and topical nicotine (Nicoderm patches directly on my right nip). Nicotine is a proven AI. Girls have always smoked to stay thin. And just look at a heavy smoker's arms - veiny/vascular as hell. Just what you're looking for this summer, Marlboro Man.

[RenegadeRows]

Originally Posted by ImJ2x

Best suggestion ever: nicotine (patches or gum).
I just eradicated some Superdrol delayed gyno with oral ATD (Novedex) and topical nicotine (Nicoderm patches directly on my right nip). Nicotine is a proven AI. Girls have always smoked to stay thin. And just look at a heavy smoker's arms - veiny/vascular as hell. Just what you're looking for this summer, Marlboro Man.

Got you covered with the nicotine, unfortunately!

Ordered some NOW Resveratrol, the 200mg stuff. Thanks for the suggestions!

[goslamacamel]

Originally Posted by ImJ2x

Best suggestion ever: nicotine (patches or gum).
I just eradicated some Superdrol delayed gyno with oral ATD (Novedex) and topical nicotine (Nicoderm patches directly on my right nip). Nicotine is a proven AI. Girls have always smoked to stay thin. And just look at a heavy smoker's arms - veiny/vascular as hell. Just what you're looking for this summer, Marlboro Man.

What do you think about a nicotine patch on naturally puffy nipples?

Had puffy nipples since 12 or 13.

[repmks]

what is an AI.

[repmks]

what does AI stand for.

[repmks]

aromatase inhibitor nevermind.

[jjohn]

Letrozole. Haha.

I've used Sustain Alpha with great results. And women lovwe the smell