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Old 05-09-2008, 07:45 PM   #1
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Glycine Propionyl L-Carnitine

Quick and easy question, is Glycine Propionyl L-Carnitine the same thing as Propionyl L-Carnitine? the same that is on DCP and the same stuff we can get on bulk at NP??
 
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It's not the same thing, no....it is an altered form hypothetically combining the benefits of PLCAR and Glycine.

From what I have seen, it is pushed more as an endurance/recovery angle.
 



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It's not the same thing, no....it is an altered form hypothetically combining the benefits of PLCAR and Glycine.

From what I have seen, it is pushed more as an endurance/recovery angle.
Yep! A propionyl carnitine ester plus glycine. Also suggested to inhibit lipid peroxidation, enhance muscle function and endurance, promote blood flow, support elimination of lactic acid/waste products from the body, serve as antioxidant, and so on...
 



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Yep! A propionyl carnitine ester plus glycine. Also suggested to inhibit lipid peroxidation, enhance muscle function and endurance, promote blood flow, support elimination of lactic acid/waste products from the body, serve as antioxidant, and so on...
Do you have any experience with it?
 



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Yep! A propionyl carnitine ester plus glycine. Also suggested to inhibit lipid peroxidation, enhance muscle function and endurance, promote blood flow, support elimination of lactic acid/waste products from the body, serve as antioxidant, and so on...
I though that because carnitine, in whatever form, helps the mitochondria to oxidise FFAs that it was a PRO-oxidant. Is it not so in this case?
 
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Do you have any experience with it?
Yes. I have not only used it stand-alone as GlycoCarn™ (Glycine Propionyl L-Carnitine HCl, a Sigma-tau Health Science trademark) but also as part of an advanced carnitine complex of GlycoCarn™, ArginoCarn™ (Acetyl L-Carnitine Arginate Di-HCl, also a Sigma-tau trademark, with an added arginine molecule to ALCAR), and Acetyl L-Carnitine HCL.
In both cases, the results were significant, ranging from ameliorating nervous-system oxidative stress, acetylcholine and dopamine support, to improved endothelial function, enhanced heart function/blood flow and endurance. Overall, though, I preferred the carnitine stack due to the synergy.
 



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i added a 100gms of regular plcar and another 100gms of tricreatine malate to a jug of nimbus's swell and REALLY liked it. endurance/recovery/libido all increased and got some really good pumps and muscle fullness.
 
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I though that because carnitine, in whatever form, helps the mitochondria to oxidise FFAs that it was a PRO-oxidant. Is it not so in this case?
The addition of a glycine molecule propionyl l-carnitine changes its pathway(s), just like the addition of an arginine molecule to acetyl-l-carnitine provides it with the exceptional capability of regenerating neurites, a result that regular acetyl-l-carnitine usually is unable to deliver.
 



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