The best new fat burner!

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  1. Dude jjohn I've been doing this for the past 5 days ever since i read this post, and honestly, all i have to say is damn. Im looking noticeably leaner, and bigger too. I am on recreate and wasnt really seeing any fatloss the first week or so, but after doing this protocol after an intense weights session, Im starting to look pretty damn good man and I attribute 80% of it to the cardio. I seriously think this is making me leaner by the day. Awesome.


    Ps... i can see mad striations in my upper chest, and crazy slices in my obliques, and im still holding a little water from the recreate. If i had a better cam I would take a pic, but ill just wait till I'm done with my little recomp adventure.


  2. John buddy, this shiit kicks seriouse ass! I am in no way near the shape of you, but man, with a few more months of this cardio and I will be! I have to go from 2.3 to 3.3 alternating, 3.1 to 4.1 i sway to hard right now, so I am starting out where I can. I go 2.3 for 2 minutes, then 3.3 for 2min, then 2.8 for 2 min, and keep cycling that. It is hard as hell! Definetly didn't think it was going to kick this much ass! thanks bud!
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  3. No problem guys!! My pleasure!!!

  4. There was a big thread about this a couple years ago, not sure which board, but it explained how when doing intervals your body tended to release more of a specific thyroid hormone that preserved muscle better than others while still burning fat. I used intervals after reading the thread and they work very well. Used them when getting in shape for the pic in my avi.



  5. Question:
    When on an incline of 15 and going 4.1 MPH do you hold onto the bars? I tried without and its nearly impossible. BTW i cycle between 3.5 and 4.1 .... should I drop down to 3.1?
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  6. My wife used Michael Elias as a trainer a couple of years ago, she did the same cardio and it was phenomenal. She lost weight quickly but safely. Her mom told her she was too skinny because her clothes were sooo loose and she still had another 10-15 pounds to go. Unfortunately she has been lazy and needs to do the same again. Walking/jogging with the doggy has not been as effective.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by dertynasty View Post
    Question:
    When on an incline of 15 and going 4.1 MPH do you hold onto the bars? I tried without and its nearly impossible. BTW i cycle between 3.5 and 4.1 .... should I drop down to 3.1?
    No. Never hold the bars. Just work your way up. Instead of 3.1 and 4.1, just interval between 2.9 and 3.9, and you'll get better and better.

  8. hahahah omfg thats nuts bro,

    at 15 incline there is no, and i mean NO way i was able to not hold onto the bars. NUTTTTTY.

    Aight then I'll give 2.9 - 3.9 a shot but I might not be able to do it without the bars on the 15% incline man.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by dertynasty View Post
    hahahah omfg thats nuts bro,

    at 15 incline there is no, and i mean NO way i was able to not hold onto the bars. NUTTTTTY.

    Aight then I'll give 2.9 - 3.9 a shot but I might not be able to do it without the bars on the 15% incline man.
    It's just practice You'll get it!

  10. Right now i'm doing 45 minutes empty stomach cardio 4 times a week with my heartrate at 130bpm, i was doing some interval work but i'm following the advice of an IFBB pro right now and he told me to drop it, i think your method would be good for post-workout though. For empty stomach cardio i would keep it low intensity steady pace. Oh and i take 2 recreate and 3 powerfull before hand lol

  11. I tried it after my session tonight. Thanks for the tip.

    I found it quite easy. Did i read everything right?

    15 incline/1 min of 4.1/2 min of 3.1

    Was ok as far as cardio goes. It's not something i'd dread doing so that's a big bonus.

    Just wondering how difficult i'm supposed to find it because quite a few on here were saying it's very difficult and i don't have super stamina or anything but i found it easy...... so was just wondering if i've mis-understood something?

    Not been a big headed smart-ass or anything. Just want to make sure i'm doing it right. I want the results

  12. Quote Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    Right now i'm doing 45 minutes empty stomach cardio 4 times a week with my heartrate at 130bpm, i was doing some interval work but i'm following the advice of an IFBB pro right now and he told me to drop it, i think your method would be good for post-workout though. For empty stomach cardio i would keep it low intensity steady pace. Oh and i take 2 recreate and 3 powerfull before hand lol
    Are you taking any BCAAs/EAAs before the AM cardio?
    Freedom means nothing here.

  13. just curious, how would you guys say this compares with HIIT cardio 3x week after lifting for 9-12minutes of interval work. not looking for a huge cut, just keeping the fat off during bulking?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    Are you taking any BCAAs/EAAs before the AM cardio?
    No but i think 5g's bcaa's won't hurt so i'll be adding that in/.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    No but i think 5g's bcaa's won't hurt so i'll be adding that in/.
    Cool.
    Freedom means nothing here.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    I tried it after my session tonight. Thanks for the tip.

    I found it quite easy. Did i read everything right?

    15 incline/1 min of 4.1/2 min of 3.1

    Was ok as far as cardio goes. It's not something i'd dread doing so that's a big bonus.

    Just wondering how difficult i'm supposed to find it because quite a few on here were saying it's very difficult and i don't have super stamina or anything but i found it easy...... so was just wondering if i've mis-understood something?

    Not been a big headed smart-ass or anything. Just want to make sure i'm doing it right. I want the results
    Its only easy if you hold onto something.

  17. I have had great success doing a variety of different types of cardio. My rule of thumb is fasted cardio should be low intensity, otherwise I use interval training which really kicks in with the fat burn. What I have really had success with just lately is muscle preservation/gain while burning fat. Yes the supps I have been using have played there part. I just can't believe that at close to 50 I am still able to add mass so easily. I really caught my off guard, I expected to lose weight but I didn't I just burned fat.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  18. Question regarding the machines at the gym


    my elliptical and the treadmill have different settings (ie manual, cardio, heart, fat loss, mountain, flat, etc) that will change the resistance and such in intervals... but these are almost impossible to customize (you can customize the resistance of each interval..but not the length of the interval)

    do you guys just manually adjust the speed every minute.. or is there a way to customize the intervals that i am overlooking?
    Im tired of being stuck to the machines preset intervals, and i hate having to adjust the machine every minute

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Palo Alto Labs View Post
    Question regarding the machines at the gym


    my elliptical and the treadmill have different settings (ie manual, cardio, heart, fat loss, mountain, flat, etc) that will change the resistance and such in intervals... but these are almost impossible to customize (you can customize the resistance of each interval..but not the length of the interval)

    do you guys just manually adjust the speed every minute.. or is there a way to customize the intervals that i am overlooking?
    Im tired of being stuck to the machines preset intervals, and i hate having to adjust the machine every minute
    I adjust it as I go along manually. It does a very good job, and I find it more motivating, as I sometimes crank it up a little higher, and time goes by faster by doing this.

  20. my gym just got new treadmills that have an incline of 18...its pretty intense

  21. Quote Originally Posted by dertynasty View Post
    Its only easy if you hold onto something.
    Didn't hold onto everything. Still found it very easy.

    I'm a bit confused.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by dertynasty View Post
    Its only easy if you hold onto something.
    What's the highest incline the treadmills at your gym go to?

    I'm wondering if the incline settings at your gym are different to mine?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by ticco View Post
    my gym just got new treadmills that have an incline of 18...its pretty intense
    18?? Whoa that's cool!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    18?? Whoa that's cool!

    yea i was amazed when it kept going up at 15...with these new treadmills i feel like im in a space ship about to blast off, theres lights and grips and beeps sheeesh.

  25. would it be best to take some whey protein b4 doing the cardio after weights?
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