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    My wife used Michael Elias as a trainer a couple of years ago, she did the same cardio and it was phenomenal. She lost weight quickly but safely. Her mom told her she was too skinny because her clothes were sooo loose and she still had another 10-15 pounds to go. Unfortunately she has been lazy and needs to do the same again. Walking/jogging with the doggy has not been as effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dertynasty View Post
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    When on an incline of 15 and going 4.1 MPH do you hold onto the bars? I tried without and its nearly impossible. BTW i cycle between 3.5 and 4.1 .... should I drop down to 3.1?
    No. Never hold the bars. Just work your way up. Instead of 3.1 and 4.1, just interval between 2.9 and 3.9, and you'll get better and better.
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    hahahah omfg thats nuts bro,

    at 15 incline there is no, and i mean NO way i was able to not hold onto the bars. NUTTTTTY.

    Aight then I'll give 2.9 - 3.9 a shot but I might not be able to do it without the bars on the 15% incline man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dertynasty View Post
    hahahah omfg thats nuts bro,

    at 15 incline there is no, and i mean NO way i was able to not hold onto the bars. NUTTTTTY.

    Aight then I'll give 2.9 - 3.9 a shot but I might not be able to do it without the bars on the 15% incline man.
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    Right now i'm doing 45 minutes empty stomach cardio 4 times a week with my heartrate at 130bpm, i was doing some interval work but i'm following the advice of an IFBB pro right now and he told me to drop it, i think your method would be good for post-workout though. For empty stomach cardio i would keep it low intensity steady pace. Oh and i take 2 recreate and 3 powerfull before hand lol
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    I tried it after my session tonight. Thanks for the tip.

    I found it quite easy. Did i read everything right?

    15 incline/1 min of 4.1/2 min of 3.1

    Was ok as far as cardio goes. It's not something i'd dread doing so that's a big bonus.

    Just wondering how difficult i'm supposed to find it because quite a few on here were saying it's very difficult and i don't have super stamina or anything but i found it easy...... so was just wondering if i've mis-understood something?

    Not been a big headed smart-ass or anything. Just want to make sure i'm doing it right. I want the results
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    Right now i'm doing 45 minutes empty stomach cardio 4 times a week with my heartrate at 130bpm, i was doing some interval work but i'm following the advice of an IFBB pro right now and he told me to drop it, i think your method would be good for post-workout though. For empty stomach cardio i would keep it low intensity steady pace. Oh and i take 2 recreate and 3 powerfull before hand lol
    Are you taking any BCAAs/EAAs before the AM cardio?
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    just curious, how would you guys say this compares with HIIT cardio 3x week after lifting for 9-12minutes of interval work. not looking for a huge cut, just keeping the fat off during bulking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    Are you taking any BCAAs/EAAs before the AM cardio?
    No but i think 5g's bcaa's won't hurt so i'll be adding that in/.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHAPS View Post
    No but i think 5g's bcaa's won't hurt so i'll be adding that in/.
    Cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    I tried it after my session tonight. Thanks for the tip.

    I found it quite easy. Did i read everything right?

    15 incline/1 min of 4.1/2 min of 3.1

    Was ok as far as cardio goes. It's not something i'd dread doing so that's a big bonus.

    Just wondering how difficult i'm supposed to find it because quite a few on here were saying it's very difficult and i don't have super stamina or anything but i found it easy...... so was just wondering if i've mis-understood something?

    Not been a big headed smart-ass or anything. Just want to make sure i'm doing it right. I want the results
    Its only easy if you hold onto something.
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    I have had great success doing a variety of different types of cardio. My rule of thumb is fasted cardio should be low intensity, otherwise I use interval training which really kicks in with the fat burn. What I have really had success with just lately is muscle preservation/gain while burning fat. Yes the supps I have been using have played there part. I just can't believe that at close to 50 I am still able to add mass so easily. I really caught my off guard, I expected to lose weight but I didn't I just burned fat.
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    Question regarding the machines at the gym


    my elliptical and the treadmill have different settings (ie manual, cardio, heart, fat loss, mountain, flat, etc) that will change the resistance and such in intervals... but these are almost impossible to customize (you can customize the resistance of each interval..but not the length of the interval)

    do you guys just manually adjust the speed every minute.. or is there a way to customize the intervals that i am overlooking?
    Im tired of being stuck to the machines preset intervals, and i hate having to adjust the machine every minute
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palo Alto Labs View Post
    Question regarding the machines at the gym


    my elliptical and the treadmill have different settings (ie manual, cardio, heart, fat loss, mountain, flat, etc) that will change the resistance and such in intervals... but these are almost impossible to customize (you can customize the resistance of each interval..but not the length of the interval)

    do you guys just manually adjust the speed every minute.. or is there a way to customize the intervals that i am overlooking?
    Im tired of being stuck to the machines preset intervals, and i hate having to adjust the machine every minute
    I adjust it as I go along manually. It does a very good job, and I find it more motivating, as I sometimes crank it up a little higher, and time goes by faster by doing this.
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    my gym just got new treadmills that have an incline of 18...its pretty intense
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    Quote Originally Posted by dertynasty View Post
    Its only easy if you hold onto something.
    Didn't hold onto everything. Still found it very easy.

    I'm a bit confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dertynasty View Post
    Its only easy if you hold onto something.
    What's the highest incline the treadmills at your gym go to?

    I'm wondering if the incline settings at your gym are different to mine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ticco View Post
    my gym just got new treadmills that have an incline of 18...its pretty intense
    18?? Whoa that's cool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    18?? Whoa that's cool!

    yea i was amazed when it kept going up at 15...with these new treadmills i feel like im in a space ship about to blast off, theres lights and grips and beeps sheeesh.
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    would it be best to take some whey protein b4 doing the cardio after weights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palo Alto Labs View Post
    Question regarding the machines at the gym


    my elliptical and the treadmill have different settings (ie manual, cardio, heart, fat loss, mountain, flat, etc) that will change the resistance and such in intervals... but these are almost impossible to customize (you can customize the resistance of each interval..but not the length of the interval)

    do you guys just manually adjust the speed every minute.. or is there a way to customize the intervals that i am overlooking?
    Im tired of being stuck to the machines preset intervals, and i hate having to adjust the machine every minute
    Yah I ran into the exact same situation with my eliptical at home I just adjust the tension manually.
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    Just giving due props to JJohn - I've been doing a slight variation on this exercise for the last week and it is added a new dimention to my normal after weights cardio; it's also a lot of fun! Cheers for the thread/tip JJohn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markio View Post
    Just giving due props to JJohn - I've been doing a slight variation on this exercise for the last week and it is added a new dimention to my normal after weights cardio; it's also a lot of fun! Cheers for the thread/tip JJohn.
    My pleasure man. Glad you like it!
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    I love this. So easy to add in at the end of a workout.. And you can burn a nice amount of cals in a short period of time..

    jjohn.. I am in your debt.. lol
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    Haha. Nice!
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    Ok Sounds Interesting


    ok i AM SOLD. i TYPICALLY INTERSPERSE CARDIO DURING MYE WEIGHTS, LIKE BETWEEN SUPERSETS. is this horribly wrong? It gives my muscles a chance to rest without just sitting around (usually just like 5 minutes of HIIT before doing the next series of supersets, and not after supersets focused on legs) i have to say I am going ot try it YOUR way, cause my way has not been realy producing fat burning results.

    (Sorry about he caps)


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    Haha. Nice!
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    so will this be at Nutraplanet anytime soon?

    my treadmill only goes to 10!

    Sounds like you are recomping nicely, JJ!
    Bobby: I don't believe the pop 2 pills and i lost weight claim either! But this thing that JJ's got...........he may be on to something.

    JJ, you only lifting 4 days per week followed by cardio? nothing on the the other 3 days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    so will this be at Nutraplanet anytime soon?

    my treadmill only goes to 10!

    Sounds like you are recomping nicely, JJ!
    Bobby: I don't believe the pop 2 pills and i lost weight claim either! But this thing that JJ's got...........he may be on to something.

    JJ, you only lifting 4 days per week followed by cardio? nothing on the the other 3 days?
    Haha. Yeah, NP will sell Jj's magic caps of cardio!

    Darn, get a new one then

    Thanks! Right now, I lift 5x a week, and cardio after my weights sessions, except leg day.

    The other days, I rest, I might go for rollerblade and biking, but it's nothing really intense, just for fun..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikehalliday View Post
    ok i AM SOLD. i TYPICALLY INTERSPERSE CARDIO DURING MYE WEIGHTS, LIKE BETWEEN SUPERSETS. is this horribly wrong? It gives my muscles a chance to rest without just sitting around (usually just like 5 minutes of HIIT before doing the next series of supersets, and not after supersets focused on legs) i have to say I am going ot try it YOUR way, cause my way has not been realy producing fat burning results.

    (Sorry about he caps)
    Your method is a real headache, as IMO you can't really focus on anything since you're running around all the time. Try it, and let me know!
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    I love me some HIIT, and better yet, dynamic exercise. If your goal is to burn fat, cardio-exclusive sessions, utilizing varying speeds and movements, will shed the most adipose over time. Whether it be inclined, declined, backwards, or what have you, the important aspect is intensity and variance. Studies comparing low vs high intensity cardiovascular training show the high intensity group losing more adipose over a longer time period (due to the aggregate effect on metabolic pathways [see: oxidation of FFAs, nitrogen balance, glucose disposal and son on]). Low-intensity cardio is amazing if your only concern is losing fat from 24-72h post-exercise (as FFAs are oxidized readily in that respect); however, if your goal is long-term weight management, there is no replacement for dynamic movement and high-intensity training.
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