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Old 04-29-2008, 11:52 PM   #1
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Guanifisen in OTC Ephedrine HCl products
I saw some Primatene tablets at CVS today, and each capsule has 12.5mg ephedrine HCl and 200mg guanifisen. If I want to use this as my primary source for ephedrine, does it matter if it has guanifisen in the long-term in terms of negative health effects? For example, is it okay to use this stuff for 3-6 months without any problems?
 
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I saw some Primatene tablets at CVS today, and each capsule has 12.5mg ephedrine HCl and 200mg guanifisen. If I want to use this as my primary source for ephedrine, does it matter if it has guanifisen in the long-term in terms of negative health effects? For example, is it okay to use this stuff for 3-6 months without any problems?
It would appear to be safe, yes. Take a look at toxicology reports. I've used it, however no longer than about 6-8 week at a time.
 
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3-6 months continuously is a horrible idea. 6-8 weeks max
 


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3-6 months continuously is a horrible idea. 6-8 weeks max
I agree here. While i've never read any studies to suggest serious toxicology effects from long term use, i'd still use it in short term intervals to play it on the safe side.

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I agree here. While i've never read any studies to suggest serious toxicology effects from long term use, i'd still use it in short term intervals to play it on the safe side.

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So with the guanifisen is a bad idea to use for extended periods of time.

How about straight ephedrine HCl? Can it be used for 3-6 months at a time?
 
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I wouldn't unless it was being cycled a few days on and then a few days off...
 


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might be a good idea to low dose an anti-cort with that. oh yeah, some reset ad might not hurt.
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 03:32 PM   #10
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Once I finish these primatene tabs, I may just order some ephedrine HCl from somewhere off the net.
 
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Once I finish these primatene tabs, I may just order some ephedrine HCl from somewhere off the net.

why when u can go to a walgreens and pick some up? the best thing u'll find on the net is vasopro which only has 12.5mg more of ephedrine per tab but still has 200mg of guanifisen
 


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Walgreen's, CVS, Rite-Aid all have ephedrine with the guanifisen in it, such as Bronkaid and Primatene. I want to get straight ephedrine HCl without the guanifisen.
 
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guaifenesin doesnt affect how long ephedrine can be cycle for.

ephedrine shouldnt be run for more than 6-8 weeks for the sole purpose of down-regulation of the beta receptors.

you can possibly run it longer with something like ketotifen
however the stimulant effects wont be as good
since the adrenal glands will be taxed heavily and wont produce as much adrenaline.
 
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Old 04-30-2008, 11:26 PM   #14
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OK, thanks. Do you think 12.5mg ephedrine with 200mg caffeine, dosed 2-3 times a day is good enough for fat loss purposes?

Also, after using this for six weeks, how long does it take the adrenal glands to recover?
 
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Six weeks straight and your adrenals will be shot. I would say 2 weeks of no stims min. Have you taken ephedrine before? It takes 25 mgs for me to notice anything even with fresh adrenals but i only need like 100mgs of caffeine for a good stim. Have you done 200 mgs of caffeine at once before.
 


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Yes, I don't feel much from 200mg caffeine.

I'm feeling kind of weird right now after taking 12.5mg ephedrine HCl, 200mg caffeine, and two of the old Hydroxycut capsules (13.2mg ephedra and 132mg caffeine, but it's way past expi