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    what is the Best Antioxidant ???


    what do u guys think??

    It can be a product, or an ingredient.


    Currently I'm using Super Antioxidants by NOW at 4-6 caps a day.

    Just wanto know what is the Best out there???


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    i like to take NP's bulk green tea solo right now but a potent stack would be life support + green tea. NOW's anti-oxidant formula is not a bad one, def. at the top of many peoples list. im interested in stacking the above with noxidant
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    Best, as in every case is very subjective.
    I personally like Green Tea Extract, and Grape Seed Extract. RPN just released http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/r...-capsules.html that is a very good looking formulation. Greens+ and Reds+ are also quite popular.
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    I use crotoflavo max with a orac of over 5500. I love it. The highest orac value for your dollar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    I use crotoflavo max with a orac of over 5500. I love it. The highest orac value for your dollar.
    hi could you elaborate on this orac value?? thanks.


    Is grape seed extract the most potent antiox?
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    ORAC is an acronym that stands for 'oxygen radical absorbance capacity.'
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    I do a daily double stack for antioxidents as I take 4 caps of NP's bulk Green Tea, ALCAR plus two ALAs and then I drink my 8 oz of 100% pure Pomegranite Juice along with 3 oz each of ACAI and GOJI juice. The ACAI has an ORAC of 18,500 and the GOJI has 25,300.
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    What ever happened to astaxanthine? Wasn't that supposed to be the king of all antioxidants?
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    Green Tea Extract, Sesamin, Trans-resveratrol
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    you cant go wrong with GREEN TEA EXTRACT.....
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    I drink green tea, drink pomegranate juice with added goji, and eat just about every different kind of fruit ever. This is where the power of antioxidants is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post
    I drink green tea, drink pomegranate juice with added goji, and eat just about every different kind of fruit ever. This is where the power of antioxidants is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    The power is inside of a pill. You know this.
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    I formulated NOxidant to contain the most effective antioxidants effective at dealing with nitrogenous free radicals.

    Green Tea extract, Grape Seed extract, Natural (gamma-tocopherol) vitamin e, ALA, quercetin, SOD precursors, vitamin c, etc not to mention 80% Apple Polyphenols, which are extremely potent.

    For the price, I guarantee you will not be able to beat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I formulated NOxidant to contain the most effective antioxidants effective at dealing with nitrogenous free radicals.

    Green Tea extract, Grape Seed extract, Natural (gamma-tocopherol) vitamin e, ALA, quercetin, SOD precursors, vitamin c, etc not to mention 80% Apple Polyphenols, which are extremely potent.

    For the price, I guarantee you will not be able to beat it.
    looking good in the avatar dsade but i have a question. after reading the short write-up on noxidant it makes me feel that i should stack noxidant with some kind of no2 product. i know it can help solo but others may not get that impression. i use TEKNO3 so i can do that stack, but others may not have the current resources or cash to pay for a stack so i ask - have you tried the product solo, any normal benefits from it. how well do you think it would play up to a product like NOW's anti-oxidant product or should you typically stick to using it with a no2 product?
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    NO is produced/released during workouts ANYWAY...just that NO products will cause an even greater synthesis.

    Either way, the effects after workouts is the same regarding free radicals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freakabe View Post
    hi could you elaborate on this orac value?? thanks.


    Is grape seed extract the most potent antiox?


    The higher the ORAC value the better the antioxidant it is. That is how they measure fruits. The min one should have in a day is at least 5000 ORAC any thing higher is of course better. Grape seed is not the highest. It is a great antioxidant but its the total again total orac value you need from what ever the source may be weather its NAC or grape seed or green tea etc. Usually when consuming fruits its the combo we need to look at.

    [ame="http://youtube.com/watch?v=JfLzog-Ug7o"]YouTube - Measuring Anti-Oxidant Power[/ame]
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    The higher the ORAC value the better the antioxidant it is. That is how they measure fruits. The min one should have in a day is at least 5000 ORAC any thing higher is of course better. Grape seed is not the highest. It is a great antioxidant but its the total again total orac value you need from what ever the source may be weather its NAC or grape seed or green tea etc. Usually when consuming fruits its the combo we need to look at.

    YouTube - Measuring Anti-Oxidant Power
    Do you buy into that test tube ORAC stuff? I think it's useful to a point.
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    Can't hurt. Its a antioxidant. WE oxidize faster than we can make enough antioxidants so the higher ORAC of course the better. If we were in a perfect world where we never oxidized wed be living for ever and ever.
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    I think Ralph is trying to say: the write-up for NOxidant gives the impression it only helps if you are using NO products.

    I had that impression too. I even thought that Noxidant was a NO product+antioxidants.

    Perhaps you can emphasize in your write-up/marketing that NOxidant is a potent anti-oxidant, and need not be paired with a NO product. I also feel that NO-type products are losing 'popularity' now, so there isn't rally a need to capitalize on the name 'NO'. Also, I get the feeling that only noobs go for pure NO products. Such noobs are unlikely to care, or even know about the oxidizing effects of NO. Associating your product with NO could actually lower the "respect" some people might have for your product.

    I am not trying to start a flame war, just trying to help.

    BTW way, I just bought a bottle of Noxidant.

    And I have bought NO products before.


    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    NO is produced/released during workouts ANYWAY...just that NO products will cause an even greater synthesis.

    Either way, the effects after workouts is the same regarding free radicals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wontdie View Post
    I think Ralph is trying to say: the write-up for NOxidant gives the impression it only helps if you are using NO products.

    I had that impression too. I even thought that Noxidant was a NO product+antioxidants.

    Perhaps you can emphasize in your write-up/marketing that NOxidant is a potent anti-oxidant, and need not be paired with a NO product. I also feel that NO-type products are losing 'popularity' now, so there isn't rally a need to capitalize on the name 'NO'. Also, I get the feeling that only noobs go for pure NO products. Such noobs are unlikely to care, or even know about the oxidizing effects of NO. Associating your product with NO could actually lower the "respect" some people might have for your product.

    I am not trying to start a flame war, just trying to help.

    BTW way, I just bought a bottle of Noxidant.

    And I have bought NO products before.
    LOL! You don't respect his product because it's associated with nitric oxide? What kinda sick game are you playing? Oh it's on.
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    I have seen most studies show that straight up antioxidants in pill form alone don't have many benefits. Also interesting that taking a wide variety in lower amounts showed better effects than a few on higher. That was just one study but interesting. I think greens products, green tea and actually fruit are the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    The higher the ORAC value the better the antioxidant it is. That is how they measure fruits. The min one should have in a day is at least 5000 ORAC any thing higher is of course better. Grape seed is not the highest. It is a great antioxidant but its the total again total orac value you need from what ever the source may be weather its NAC or grape seed or green tea etc. Usually when consuming fruits its the combo we need to look at.

    YouTube - Measuring Anti-Oxidant Power
    You couldn't be more wrong. Obviously your knowledge of the subject matter is limited to the ad-copy which you have read and taken as the truth. A simple investigation into the ORAC preocess would readily expose its glaring faults. As FoG stated it is conducted in vitro an the inherent problems should be quite evident. For those who need further eludication I will provide one example. There is no regard for oral bioavailability whatsoever. So even if it had an ORAC score of 10,000,000 it wouldn't matter if it was entirely conjugated before it reached the bloodtream. This alone makes ORAC scores near worthless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ersatz View Post
    You couldn't be more wrong. Obviously your knowledge of the subject matter is limited to the ad-copy which you have read and taken as the truth. A simple investigation into the ORAC preocess would readily expose its glaring faults. As FoG stated it is conducted in vitro an the inherent problems should be quite evident. For those who need further eludication I will provide one example. There is no regard for oral bioavailability whatsoever. So even if it had an ORAC score of 10,000,000 it wouldn't matter if it was entirely conjugated before it reached the bloodtream. This alone makes ORAC scores near worthless.
    Hahaha. I was planning on seeing what he had to say before you went ahead and explained it! Good post though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freakabe View Post
    what do u guys think??

    It can be a product, or an ingredient.


    Currently I'm using Super Antioxidants by NOW at 4-6 caps a day.

    Just wanto know what is the Best out there???


    Cheers!
    I would definitely go with Green Tea Extract, and try drinking a ton of water (gallon or more daily). The water will help to flush out the toxins from your body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCmuscle View Post
    I would definitely go with Green Tea Extract, and try drinking a ton of water (gallon or more daily). The water will help to flush out the toxins from your body.
    Hell yes! Lots of water and green tea caps! Sesamin is also a good anti-oxidant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wontdie View Post
    I think Ralph is trying to say: the write-up for NOxidant gives the impression it only helps if you are using NO products.

    I had that impression too. I even thought that Noxidant was a NO product+antioxidants.

    Perhaps you can emphasize in your write-up/marketing that NOxidant is a potent anti-oxidant, and need not be paired with a NO product. I also feel that NO-type products are losing 'popularity' now, so there isn't rally a need to capitalize on the name 'NO'. Also, I get the feeling that only noobs go for pure NO products. Such noobs are unlikely to care, or even know about the oxidizing effects of NO. Associating your product with NO could actually lower the "respect" some people might have for your product.
    I am not trying to start a flame war, just trying to help.

    BTW way, I just bought a bottle of Noxidant.

    And I have bought NO products before.
    Lower the respect? I for one don't think that NO products are losing their popularity that much. They have there place and definitely serve a purpose if used correctly imo.

    Increasing overall bloodflow to muscle tissue will offer up the opportunity for enhanced nutrient uptake leading to added potential for muscle growth. Now granted this potential largely depends on the individual and their training, diet, and supplementation regime.

    I can understand your point though that the write up may be a bit confusing to some. The anti-oxidants contained in NOxidant not only help prevent potential free radical damage resulting from the reactive nitrogen species, but also many different potential free radical threats that may exist within the body. Hey if some rogue free radical comes along, the specific antioxidant present is glad to lend an electron to neutrilize it.

    NOxidant is designed more specifically for bodybuilders to address the potential threats of NO induced free radical damage that results from weight training in general. As Dsade has already stated, you produce plenty of NO through basic weight training without any additional supplementation. The potential for more significant free radical development/damage can often then result. This product is designed to address and treat this issue. In the end you have a healthier, less war torn anabolic machine.
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