[warnerve]

Originally Posted by slow-mun

I don't know if he was or not, but this looked suspicious after he was banned-
muscleguy
You'd have to ask the guy who he was supposedly trading supplements with. I seriously would not doubt that one of those supplements was probably something that he got from this forum to log. For those wondering, he was given about four or five chances by us and basically refused to ship HemodrauliX back, b/c he was going to start it when he felt like it(his words). He was very rude to us and said that he felt that we were very "cut throat" in our attempts to get him to log the product. He also said that our badgering of him to begin the log made him lose confidence in Axis Labs as a company. I also want everyone to know that he was given HemodrauliX about two weeks before anyone could even buy it in stores. His excuse all along was that he could not afford a membership to a gym, although I'm sure everyone saw his numberous posts and pictures of his recent supplement purchases.

lol at "cut throat" when it comes to being given free supplements that aren't even out yet, what a ****. probably should make sure you have access to weights before you are on the internet offering to do 2 or 3 logs.

[Lanbane]

I must lookup this MuscleguyinNY........... So we need s sticky version of a callout thread that companies PM a designated mod with the reasoning a certain person should be added. an ongoing list will result in called out names getting lost in the shuffle.

Then we send all forum members within driving distance to collect our supps.

[ReaperX]

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[Cellardude]

hey lany. PM me muscleguys addy. Ill go kick him in the balls for you. I live in ny too so ill find the tool and give em what he deserves :]

[Lanbane]

I can't find him in any of my lists... but if someone else has his info and could PM it to me.... I'd love to see if it jogs my memory. The whole "guy in New York who can't afford the gym thing" seems vaguely familiar...........

[Lanbane]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

I agree with Dave @ PAL/imprezivr that some type of deposit or payment would be the best way to secure a log. Even some type of contract in writing would work, however, legal fees would easily exceed the product cost.

The issues with doing logs is people are going to come up with some lame excuses about not having money or not having a credit card, whatever. They'll even be more inclined to be biased since the company has their money.

I agree on the potential bias thing in regards to a deposit.

[ReaperX]

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[Lanbane]

I've seen quite a few negative logs... and feel that most are accepted gracefully. But there is a difference between testers who discuss without bias and those that negatively judge without providing much worthwhile info.

Being a supplement user for a long time prior to joining AN, I always ask that testers stay honest. Companies who are offering logs and expecting nothing but good feedback are using them strictly for marketing. Our philosophy is that the logs are as much for our use as they are for the potential consumers. We look for trends and input in logs to improve on products and improve on the ways we recommend using our products. I truly hope other companies are approaching logs with this mindset.

Your points and ideas above are valid though. I was unaware of the JW log you referenced... I'll have to take a look.

[ReaperX]

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First time seeing this thread. Muscleguy was trying to trade me a bottle of EST Propadrol. Not sure if that helps at all...

[mattikus]

A little dramatic don't ya think Reaper? I have read plenty of logs that were quite honest, to the point of calling something near worthless. I find alot of logs informative and entertaining. Sure, some logs are a big brown-nosing session, but some of the 'trusted' bros do damn fine job. I doubt a company loses a significant amount of $$$ sending a few free bottles of product. Either way, there should be more ads with near naked women.

And I do mean women Reap, not Kai Greene and a grapefruit..

[ReaperX]

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[Kruger]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

regardless of the logs or not, purely for maximizing profit, don't run logs. Just use that money instead for marketing purposes (mazagines/nutrition websites).

Yes, that couple hundred dollar in supplements will get approximately 3 pixels in a magazine.


Do you even understand the cost of the things you propose?




On the larger issues, if you want the blacklist, its up to you. We can't keep track of people for 30 companies but we sure can make a thread in which you can track them yourself.

[AlexParty]

Originally Posted by Jerry

Yes, that couple hundred dollar in supplements will get approximately 3 pixels in a magazine.


Do you even understand the cost of the things you propose?

owned?