Ginseng and Testosterone Levels
- 04-14-2008, 07:40 PM
Ginseng and Testosterone Levels
Effect ofon Testosterone Level and Prostate in Male Rats
Authors: M. S. Fahim a; Z. Fahim a; J. M. Harman a; T. E. Clevenger b; W. Mullins b; E. S. E. Hafez c
Affiliations: a Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Missouri School of Medicine, Columbia, MO, USA
b Environmental Trace Substances Research Center, University of Missouri, Columbia, MO, USA
c Department of Gynecology/ Obstetrics, Wayne State University School of Medicine, Detroit, MI, USA
Publication Frequency: 6 issues per year
Published in: journal Systems Biology in Reproductive Medicine, Volume 8, Issue 4 June 1982 , pages 261 - 263
Subject: Andrology & Men's Health;
Formats available: PDF (English)
Previously published as: Archives of Andrology (0148-5016, 1521-0375) until 2008
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Adult male rats were treated with 1% and 5% in their diet for 60 days. Control rats were used. There was an increase in daily food consumption without an increase in body weight of treated animals. Rats that received 5% ginseng experienced a significant increase in blood testosterone level (p < 0.001). Prostate weight in the treated animals was significantly reduced as compared to the control animals.PharmD
- 04-14-2008, 10:19 PM
people have been popping ginseng pills since as long as I can remember, I'm skeptical since I haven't heard of it raising test before now. I remember taking it in my teens & early 20's and it did absolutely nothing noticeable for me
for my energy, mental clarity, or anything else.
04-14-2008, 10:32 PM
Yeah, take everything with a grain of salt of course. But since I hadn't seen this before either I figured I would stir the pot .
04-15-2008, 12:50 PM
04-15-2008, 01:08 PM
There was only one time that I took ginseng and noticed a difference. It was a mix of a couple different kinds and I did notice very good mental clarity and improved energy. However I started breaking out on my my face from it, like hives or something so I stopped taking them. They were def. good and haven't been able to find any like that since, my G/F at the time had bought them for me at BJ's whsle.
04-15-2008, 02:40 PM
Ginseng iscalled an "adaptogen", which means it helps your body maintain homeostasis, regulating your chemistry & combatting the suppressive effects of stress, age, bad diet, etc.
Ginseng is mostly misused in the west, used for a "push", which it can give, but its best dosed low & taken over time, which will strengthen you as opposed to just giving you a burst of energy that's quickly burned off. It's why ginseng is also called a "tonic".
04-15-2008, 10:50 PM
04-16-2008, 01:13 PM
Not sub-species, but different kinds of plants. Chinese medicinal plants were not categorized botanically, but by how they affected the body: to be a ginseng, a plant must affect the body in specific ways, mostly by strengthening, building resistance to stress and disease, and promoting "male function" (virility, libido, etc).
If memory serves, there are 4 main plants categorized as ginseng. of which Panax cinquefolia is "true" ginseng, or Chinese ginseng...which comes in a variety of "flavors", including Kirin, Shiu Chu, wild, semi-wild & Korean. The plant that gets used the most in combo supplements is Eleuthero senticoccus, or "Siberian" ginseng; there is also American ginseng, which is different from the others, as it lacks the whole "male function" aspect & is therefore considered yin & primarily restorative. The 4th is 'prince's ginseng' (no connection to the Artist Formerly Known As...), and right this second, I'm drawing a blank on it's botanical name as well.
When buying ginseng, the best thing to do by far is go to a Chinese herb shop...but that will involve a bit of preparation. What it will gain you is far higher quality & far greater freshness & potency than the rows of capsules @ GNC or the local Kroger. I buy the whole roots & cook them down myself - not too laborious, and well worth the extra effort. However, those little glass vials you may see by the register at your local Qwickie Mart (ginseng & propolis, ginseng & astragalus, ginseng & royal jelly) are actually pretty good - and vastly better than powdered root in capsules.
Just remember: you should NOT try to take so much that you can feel it - in much the same way (and for some of the same reasons) that you shouldn't gulp down 3 or 4 Superdrol & then decide whether to continue taking it based on how it feels.
And now for NightWanderer's questions.
Panax is the herb with the supreme rep in Chinese medicine; 'siberian' is what's in most supps, due to the fact that the Russians did tons of research on it as a performance-enhancer back 20-40 years ago. Siberian isn't *useless* by any means, but it's not the same & won't give the same benefits (there's actually a difference of opinion as to why the old herbalists never considered Eleuthero a ginseng). Yes, that's right, "Siberian ginseng" is not in the Chinese pharmacopeia as a ginseng. IIRC its main use is for endurance, distance & aerobics.
There's also the problem (alluded to, above) of quality. Ground / powdered anything begins losing its whatever immediately - coffee, spices, and herbs. Most of what ends up on the shelves in the US (outside of the Chinese shops, that is) is the lowest quality - worthless to the Chinese, and handled accordingly (since, to them, only idiots would waste money on the low-grade junk - 'caveat emptor', redux). once it's been bought, processed, capped, bottled, packed and shipped, this low-end product may have already lost half of whatever virtue it had initially. It may then sit on a shelf for 3 to 5 years while waiting for someone to buy it and use it up. Placebo himself would perceive no benefit from it after all that.
Contrast this w/ semi-wild Yi-sun ginseng, which was running about $3000 per ounce (yes, 50% more than Peruvian flake cost in its heyday).
04-17-2008, 08:10 PM
I have used Higher Power and Now's ginseng but didn't get any big booste from either. They did seem to help me not be quite as stressed with a touch more energy, but nothing significant. On the other hand I have tried SOBE's with ginseng in them and BANG, instant super libido.
I honestly don't know why one sold in a drink seemed to do so much, while the other sold in supplement bottles don't work like that or even nearly as well.
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