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  1.  10-23-2002  09:33 PM
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    Do you cycle the UA???



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    Yes, we suggest 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off type cycle.

  3.  10-24-2002  07:17 AM
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    Is the ALA necessary, or just a precaution?
    I'm probably going to snag a couple of bottles some time soon (i.e., when ordering finally opens).

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    Originally posted by Sean
    Is the ALA necessary, or just a precaution?
    I'm probably going to snag a couple of bottles some time soon (i.e., when ordering finally opens).

    This kind of goes into the reasoning behind the idea of 2 week cycles. If there is strain on the liver, then running short cycles would obviously be ideal so that one could give their liver a break. In addition, most feedback has shown that the greatest fat loss is achieved within the first two weeks anyway. Thus ALA is probably not necessary when running short 2 week cycles, but some people choose to use it anyway. If UA does indeed put some added strain on the liver, then it wouldn't be a bad idea by any means.

    In the future, I might just cap the UA with ALA built in.

  5.  10-25-2002  09:55 AM
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    I second hammer's question. Seems to me, from what I understand of the theory behind both, that usnic acid and a yohimbine transdermal would complement each other nicely, but there's plenty I don't know. So is there some hidden trap in using them both at once, or not?

  6.  10-25-2002  04:23 PM
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    Guys asking about this **** all over the place. I went up to 2g/day for last 4 days of 2 week cycle. No sides other than some heat. There are many horror stories about UA. I believe these individuals did not do theit homework. If you protect your liver(ALA) and drink a lot of water, there shouldn't be any problems. Like WYD says, start slowly ans assess your tolerance.

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    Originally posted by khafra
    I second hammer's question. Seems to me, from what I understand of the theory behind both, that usnic acid and a yohimbine transdermal would complement each other nicely, but there's plenty I don't know. So is there some hidden trap in using them both at once, or not?
    Ive seen a bunch of people run lipoderm and UA together with nice results. I don't see any reason why they would cause any adverse reaction.

  8.  10-25-2002  04:48 PM
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    Is it legal in Canada???


    HAHAHA. Not that it REALLY matters!!!

    Talk to ya..

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    Originally posted by curt2go
    Is it legal in Canada???


    HAHAHA. Not that it REALLY matters!!!

    Talk to ya..

    It SHOULD be. As far as I know, it is not illegal anywhere in the world but for some reason, customs felt like snagging a package I sent there before. Others have gone through.... so who knows!

  10.  10-25-2002  06:37 PM
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    Ran my UA cycle with an ECA+Y, ALA, and Lipoderm, no problems.

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    I have run and I am presently doing ECA, Homebrew Yohim-transdermal, ALA, and SU (cousin of UA) STACK.

    1st time, I got a rash at day 11 @ 1,000mg. Taken once a day at night. Lost good amount of fat. Pleased with product. I took Rx clariten and it cleared the rash up in one day.

    This time, I am working up to 400mg twice a day (800mg a day total). On day 4 now (300mg x 2) with no problems. I started with 200mg x 2. I have Rx clariten on hand if a rash starts to develop. During workouts, I am dripping wet. I really think it is best to take twice a day with an ECA stack to offset lethargy.

    After I use the rest of the SU, I plan to get "Who's" UA.

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    Originally posted by scotty2
    Ran my UA cycle with an ECA+Y, ALA, and Lipoderm, no problems.
    How well did they work?

  13.  10-25-2002  11:58 PM
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    5 lbs in 2 weeks. No noticeable strength or muscle loss,

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    anybody out there tried tjhis with some yohimbine,t-2 and a eca stak(ala syntrax's lipokinetix)?

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    Should not be a problem

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    Question How would you go about stackin UA with ECA


    I've read up a bit on UA, and I want to give it a try. The issue is however, I wouldn't have the slightest clue how to stack it with me ECA.
    Currenty I plan to take one dose of ECA in the morning, and one dose before my workout. Should I take the UA doses along with the ECA - or should I take them separately; for instance, with my lunch, or after my workout, etc.

    Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

    Cheers.

  17.  10-27-2002  08:59 PM
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    Re: How would you go about stackin UA with ECA


    Originally posted by R.I.C.
    I've read up a bit on UA, and I want to give it a try. The issue is however, I wouldn't have the slightest clue how to stack it with me ECA.
    Currenty I plan to take one dose of ECA in the morning, and one dose before my workout. Should I take the UA doses along with the ECA - or should I take them separately; for instance, with my lunch, or after my workout, etc.

    Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

    Cheers.
    You could take it any way you want really. I preferred to take ECA throughout the day and then my full dosage of usnic acid before going to sleep. Usnic acid tends to cause some lethargy in certain people and the ECA helped me get out of bed in the morning. You could take the UA along with the ECA as well.

  18.  10-27-2002  10:11 PM
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    Thanks that is just what I wanted to know WYD.. I was thinking that would be the way to go... full dose at bed, then ECA to get going.. Okay here is another question.. do feel the effect for about 8 hours or does it taper off sooner?

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    Thanks for your reply WYD. I was mostly concerned if there were any side-effects by mixing the 2 supps together, and it doesn't seem so.

    Cheers.

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    Can we get some links on anything related to this?

    studies?

    safety issues?

    I think theres a lot to learn on the UA. Granted I just bought some, but theres not much info out there. Lots seem like biased opinions. There is an article in T-mag which isnt too good.

    Lets see some links, and some actual info on the substance itself, done by a non-biased party.

    Would or have any of you done DNP?

    h19

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