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    What do think is the best pre-workout supplement for energy/endurance?

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    The best would be RPM... but there's plenty of other less good ones around
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    Don't use RPM it's to good, you will never be the same. Seriously though you don't have bad workout with RPM. If for some reason you are looking for a non stimulant approach, Pslin is amazing. RPM is the bee knee's though, definitely worth a try.
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    RPM is awesome. i loved it form my samples and am about to start a log over it. i would recommend RPM, SuperPump 250, White flood, No shotgun, Ragnarok. something along those lines. they are all great products in my opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by liftbig74 View Post
    What do think is the best pre-workout supplement for energy/endurance?
    The better workout supplements can be broadly broken into two groups:

    1) Tablet format: Others have mentioned RPM. Quite good. I absolutely used to love 5 Epic Tetra as well.

    2) Powder format: This is what I typically use. I am not sure if its pschycological but I seem to do better with powdered format. Maybe its the whole idea of drinking a glass and feeling "full". The better supps here are - NO Shotgun, Vasocharge, Ragnarok, Labrada Charger. You can pick any and wont go wrong.

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    I use Ragnarok (Crushing Punch), and not only am I impressed with how well it works, but it also tastes great. This is my first time on a pre w/o supp. so I can't say anything about the above, but I like my Ragnarok!
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    ha yeah man RPM and Rag all the way!
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    Could anyone please post which of these supplements are safe for a 16 year old? Yes, I am 16 and I'm looking for more energy while working out, I feel half dead walking into the gym when having to get up early every morning.
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    At 16 you should have more energy than you know what to do with, get your diet and lifestyle in check and make sure you are getting enough sleep. You'll be hard pressed to find anyone recommend to many supplements to someone who is 16 years old.
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    The rpm + ragnarok stim free combo is perfect, as you can "tune" how much energy you add by how many RPM you take. Thats probably my only problem with preworkout drink mixes that have stims in them, there is no way to take in less stim if you already have some decent energy without taking a half dose and loosing the other benefits
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    The rpm + ragnarok stim free combo is perfect, as you can "tune" how much energy you add by how many RPM you take. Thats probably my only problem with preworkout drink mixes that have stims in them, there is no way to take in less stim if you already have some decent energy without taking a half dose and loosing the other benefits
    Are you saying that this combo is also perfect for a 16 yearold?
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    I'd think that as pmiller said with good sleep and diet you shouldn't need the rpm, but there isn't anything unsafe in either for a 16 year old.

    My comment was more in general, that the two go nicely together to control your stim levels while always taking in a full dose of the other goodies in ragnarok.
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    i put my vote in for R4W , pslin and a healthy does of creatine and bcaas
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    Quote Originally Posted by big guy22 View Post
    Are you saying that this combo is also perfect for a 16 yearold?
    dude im only 18. they are safe as long as you dont go crazy. mainly just caffeine and herbs/ mineral things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liftbig74 View Post
    What do think is the best pre-workout supplement for energy/endurance?
    u shouldn't need preworkout energy/endurance at 16 years old
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    Personally i don't like RPM unless im tired. If im not, i get tired from taking it. however, I would recommend Cordyceps and BCAAs I think both have had a good effect.
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    nos ether by get diesel is the best out there
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    the new nos ether with ba when it comes out
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    No need for anything at 16. I never needed anything to motivate me at that age. I still don't like to use stims very often as i don't want them to become a crutch. The only thing i would ever suggest for a 16yr old(other than learning good training habits and eating a ton of healthy food and blah blah you know..) would be BCAA/EAAs and/or Creatine. Not much else really needed as you should be just starting out and reading and learning are your best enhancers at this point. Good luck in w/e you decide
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    Why does everyone assume that anyone under 20 never gets tired? Just because you're 16 doesn't mean you're constantly hyper and wouldn't like some extra help staying energized and having stamina in the gym.
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    The best pre-workout supp period is RPM imo. However, stacking it with DRIVE you get even better results. A couple of other combos I've tried with RPM that I like as well are RPM+MAN Body Octane, RPM+Scivation Vasocharge, and of course the most potent I've done is RPM+Gaspari's Superpump 250 (Note: this is not for the weak). Stacking RPM and SP250 is simply ridiculous, but if you are sensitive to stims, or your stomach is sensitive don't do it because you'll spend more time in the bathroom than working out! Just my two cents!

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    Quote Originally Posted by liftbig74 View Post
    Why does everyone assume that anyone under 20 never gets tired? Just because you're 16 doesn't mean you're constantly hyper and wouldn't like some extra help staying energized and having stamina in the gym.
    there's a difference between needing it once and a while and all the time.
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    I like R4W but I haven't tried RPM and I if you buy 2 bottles of rpm and a bottle of drive on NP you get a free RPM t-shirt(pretty sweat perk I think...wish more companies would do promos like that.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsp0882 View Post
    there's a difference between needing it once and a while and all the time.
    I don't see where you're coming from with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liftbig74 View Post
    I don't see where you're coming from with this.
    i thought the original post said it was a 16 year old who was tired all the time when going into the gym. maybe i have it confused with another thread. i don't know
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    Rag then...


    I've been using Ragnarok for a long time now. really a great pre work out supp. however, i just tried Deisel Nos Ether and it's an amazing supp. i highly recommend it. reading this thread makes me want to try RPM with Nos Ether. that might be toooo much!
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    rpm nos ether and ragnarok are the best three out on the market nothing can beat those
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