from all my research I've come up with this..its very simple and basic
When starting use dhea(about a month)
Number one of course is diet,,Maybe use green tea
Than about the last month(extreme dieting) use Dailene 4 and Yohimbe hcl(for the extra lower fat that most people cannot get off)
I've used Yohimbe back in 2006 and it literally melted the fat off of me.