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  1. when does the new version of 3 ad come out?


  2. Next week.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    The main active is 2-androstenol acetate, which is essentially pheraplex without the methyl. Similar in effect, however a ton less sides.

    The ester was added to increase oral bioavailability, as no ester would give you anabolic poop. (i.e. very little oral absorption).
    Damn.. and I have 2 full bottle of Jugger's Phera-bol that I picked up from NP several months ago for 12.50 each!!
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0882 View Post
    are u guys ever going to put out the adrenosterone? i was really looking forward to using it this summer to cut up. way too many bulking steroids out there 3ad was going to be a welcome change to everything else. i'm sure if it passed customs you'd be willing to pass some along at a nice price to a fellow forum friend? if not CNW here I come
    Why not just take 11-oxo? You talk as if you can't get it anywhere, and AX just ruined your whole summer plan.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by LilPsychotic View Post
    Why not just take 11-oxo? You talk as if you can't get it anywhere, and AX just ruined your whole summer plan.
    because 11 oxo is retardedly over priced and way under dosed
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by rcaz01 View Post
    I don't want to be a downer the product sounds great and I am looking forward to it. I just want to make sure it does not fall in the same camp as Furazadrol which is also unmethylated but still has many of the same challenges as the less harsh methyls, namely things like hepatoxicity, increased bloodpressure, etc. The same with many illegal oral steroids that have these same issues.
    Can you explain why you say that about furazadrol?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Methyl Masterdrol V.2 I think is what Legal Gear is calling it.
    what is the main purpose of putting it on the formula?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0882 View Post
    because 11 oxo is retardedly over priced and way under dosed
    Yeah, um...not to mention that 11oxo is a completely different product guys! I think you're still thinking 2007 here. Last year, when 3-AD has a bit of an issue with customs and the raws, it was to be the same core ingredient as 11oxo. It has changed, is changed, and is an entirely different animal all together. The only thing that they may have in common is being in capsules.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by timdull2 View Post
    Yeah, um...not to mention that 11oxo is a completely different product guys! I think you're still thinking 2007 here. Last year, when 3-AD has a bit of an issue with customs and the raws, it was to be the same core ingredient as 11oxo. It has changed, is changed, and is an entirely different animal all together. The only thing that they may have in common is being in capsules.
    we were talking about what was supposed to be the original

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    Yeah!!

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  11. Quote Originally Posted by rcaz01 View Post
    Can you tell us if any of the testers are also running blodwork before or at least plan to do so after?

    I don't want to be a downer the product sounds great and I am looking forward to it. I just want to make sure it does not fall in the same camp as Furazadrol which is also unmethylated but still has many of the same challenges as the less harsh methyls, namely things like hepatoxicity, increased bloodpressure, etc. The same with many illegal oral steroids that have these same issues.

    Thanks for any information or links you can provide!
    Can you post up some examples of negative bloodwork with Furazadrol?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    Can you explain why you say that about furazadrol?
    First again let me say my intent wasn't to bash Furazadrol. I have bought the product and would love to use it since the feedback on using it to lean out has been great.

    I don't want to hi-jack this thread debating Furazadrol since 3AD was the topic.

    I am looking forward to Hank's log and his results since he is the only one I have seen that will possibly follow up with bloodwork.

    All of this feedback/information may greatly change what support supps and PCT could/should be used, this is what I am trying to evaluate.

    Sorry for the distraction my example may have caused...
    Last edited by rcaz01; 04-05-2008 at 02:20 AM. Reason: bad post on my part I do not want to distract fromthe topics

  13. actually var and winny are BOTH methyls there bro...

  14. Thanks for the correction, I edited out my bad example and off topic comments. My intention was not to to speak down on any product to begin with.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by jsp0882 View Post
    we were talking about what was supposed to be the original
    I know. I was just clearing the air on the topic. It's pretty much a dead topic - anything with 3-AD and 11oxo in it without the word "stackable" tagging along for the ride.

    That original ingredient will most likely make its way into another solo product soon enough, to be a direct competitor, with more favorable dosing and better price. Just an FYI fer ya.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by timdull2 View Post
    I know. I was just clearing the air on the topic. It's pretty much a dead topic - anything with 3-AD and 11oxo in it without the word "stackable" tagging along for the ride.

    That original ingredient will most likely make its way into another solo product soon enough, to be a direct competitor, with more favorable dosing and better price. Just an FYI fer ya.
    fantastic

  17. Quote Originally Posted by rcaz01 View Post
    First again let me say my intent wasn't to bash Furazadrol. I have bought the product and would love to use it since the feedback on using it to lean out has been great.

    I don't want to hi-jack this thread debating Furazadrol since 3AD was the topic.

    I am looking forward to Hank's log and his results since he is the only one I have seen that will possibly follow up with bloodwork.

    All of this feedback/information may greatly change what support supps and PCT could/should be used, this is what I am trying to evaluate.

    Sorry for the distraction my example may have caused...
    no problem bro, I just don't believe furazadrol is harsh cause even the methyl version (furazabol) is one of the milder methyl's

  18. OK, so can anyone tell me the date 3-AD will be available for sale and what the price will be?

  19. April 11th at retailers everywhere.

  20. I'm guessing this stuff would stack great with Superdrol (not NG). But what about stacking this "non-methyl Phera" with regular methylated Phera? Any opinions?
    mw2012

  21. Quote Originally Posted by ImJ2x View Post
    I'm guessing this stuff would stack great with Superdrol (not NG). But what about stacking this "non-methyl Phera" with regular methylated Phera? Any opinions?
    you can do it for a kick start for the first 2 weeks or pulse phera with straight 3-ad for the first 4 , in my view its a good cycle and probably not very toxic.

  22. Don't know about stacking it with Phera...no experience and no opinions on the matter.

    As for stacking it with SDNG, it would do well to use SDNG pre-w/o on those days only. You can mix in MFX everyday though - that stack would be absolutely killer and is on my short list of "things to do".
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by ImJ2x View Post
    I'm guessing this stuff would stack great with Superdrol (not NG). But what about stacking this "non-methyl Phera" with regular methylated Phera? Any opinions?
    It'll work, but at the same time it's kinda blah. The end effect would be like taking more 3-AD, but with the methyl side effects (or vice versa).

  24. Quote Originally Posted by timdull2 View Post
    Don't know about stacking it with Phera...no experience and no opinions on the matter.

    As for stacking it with SDNG, it would do well to use SDNG pre-w/o on those days only. You can mix in MFX everyday though - that stack would be absolutely killer and is on my short list of "things to do".
    Ingredients in MassFX can increase the conversion rate of androsterone to stanolone by increasing levels of the 3-HSD enzyme.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Ingredients in MassFX can increase the conversion rate of androsterone to stanolone by increasing levels of the 3-HSD enzyme.
    But I thought this new "3AD" has nothing to do with androsterone? You even seem to support this in your previous post where you schooled me on the boring redundancy of stacking methylated Phera with this new "un-methylated Phera" (as opposed to the androsterone in the original 3AD). You're confusing me, sinner. (But that's not too hard, lol.) Actually, I think AX is responsible for the confusion due to their retarded choice of names (again). Superdrol/SuperdrolNG; 3AD/3AD (at least add an "NG" to this one, lol.) timdull proves this "confusion" by responding to my post as though I was talking about SuperdrolNG when, in fact, I meant the original Superdrol (and even stated as much). You guys could avoid all this hassle by simply choosing new names for new products. If ya'll are too "sleepy" to think of new names, just ask Easy -- he's great at this.
    mw2012

  26. Quote Originally Posted by ImJ2x View Post
    But I thought this new "3AD" has nothing to do with androsterone? You even seem to support this in your previous post where you schooled me on the boring redundancy of stacking methylated Phera with this new "un-methylated Phera" (as opposed to the androsterone in the original 3AD). You're confusing me, sinner. (But that's not too hard, lol.) Actually, I think AX is responsible for the confusion due to their retarded choice of names (again). Superdrol/SuperdrolNG; 3AD/3AD (at least add an "NG" to this one, lol.) timdull proves this "confusion" by responding to my post as though I was talking about SuperdrolNG when, in fact, I meant the original Superdrol (and even stated as much). You guys could avoid all this hassle by simply choosing new names for new products. If ya'll are too "sleepy" to think of new names, just ask Easy -- he's great at this.
    3-AD contains Androsterone, 2-Androstenol, PLCAR, 11-alpha, and Picamilon.

    Androsterone is not the same as adrenosterone, which is what I believe you were thinking. Adrenosterone was what was going to be in the original 3-AD, which was a prohormone to the fish androgen: 11-keto-test. Androsterone is a prohormone to stanolone.

  27. oooh -- you're right -- that's exactly my confusion. Thanks for the clarification, ts.
    mw2012

  28. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Ingredients in MassFX can increase the conversion rate of androsterone to stanolone by increasing levels of the 3-HSD enzyme.
    Sinna, please elaborate

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Mass_69 View Post
    Sinna, please elaborate
    Forslean has been shown to increase levels of this enzyme.

    Androsterone is a precursor to stanolone, but it takes 2 steps to get there. 17HSD protonates the 17-one to make a 17b-ol while it's in yer gut, not it's just chillin' out and waiting for the 3-hsd enzyme to come in and take the proton off the 3-hydroxy to make it a ketone. Now we're golden, and this bad boy can bind to the AR's.
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