what is the most effective 8 week test supplement?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by pavb10 View Post
    they have DIM on bb.com, how much do i need and when?
    DIM is abosorbed really poorly, but u would need about 200mg 3x a day with meals.


  2. so what would u suggest deisel? im guessing DTH? what should it be stacked with?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by pavb10 View Post
    so what would u suggest deisel? im guessing DTH? what should it be stacked with?
    DTH at 4-6 tabs a day or DTH stacked with Trib Test Extreme:

    The "Extreme double or Nothing stack"

    http://www.getdiesel.com/pages/extreme_double.htm

    or

    DTH, TTE, and raw test:

    The "hardcore Three kings stack"

    http://www.getdiesel.com/pages/hardcore_threekings.htm

    some places if you guy the DTH and TTE u get the raw test free.

    I guarantee those stacks to any 2 product nat. test booster stack from any company.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    DTH at 4-6 tabs a day or DTH stacked with Trib Test Extreme:

    The "Extreme double or Nothing stack"

    Extreme double or nothing stack - testosterone booster by GET DIESEL NUTRITION

    or

    DTH, TTE, and raw test:

    The "hardcore Three kings stack"

    Hardcore Three Kings Stack - testosterone booster by GET DIESEL NUTRITION

    some places if you guy the DTH and TTE u get the raw test free.

    I guarantee those stacks to any 2 product nat. test booster stack from any company.
    I'd be interested in TTE and DTH vs HX2 and Mass FX Max Strength that would be a great comparison.

    HX2 is kinda grey area natty though, due to 6-bromo not being legal in some natty BBing organizations.

    Other than that comparison I would think tte+dth would have no rivals.

  5. is their any anti estrogen build into TTE or DTH?
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by pavb10 View Post
    is their any anti estrogen build into TTE or DTH?
    yep most people that have had their estodiol level tested on DTH always came back under 20 (15 and below is 2 low), when they were 40 and up before Diesel Test.

    Its because there is alot of DIM in Diesel Test. It reduce estrodiol but its not an anti-aromatase estrogen killer.

  7. i though you said DIM doesnt absorb well? should it be stacked with something that more effectively controls estrogen?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by pavb10 View Post
    i though you said DIM doesnt absorb well? should it be stacked with something that more effectively controls estrogen?
    I believe the bioperine in dth would address that absobrtion issue.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by pavb10 View Post
    dmae is an antioxidant, im big on antioxidants because my body takes a toll with football. why should i lose the creatine mono and AAKG? theyve always kinda been staples for me. and goslamacamel, how could ALA take over for vitamin C and vitamin E?
    what? who told u this stuff?

    DMAE is not an antioxidant per se. But it will increase ach which is nec. for something like football.

    U can keep the creatine.

    ala cant take over for vit. c or E, but ala recycles vit. c and e so use it with those. Vit c is water soluble and vit e is fat soluble so they protect dif. parts of the body.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    what? who told u this stuff?

    DMAE is not an antioxidant per se. But it will increase ach which is nec. for something like football.

    U can keep the creatine.

    ala cant take over for vit. c or E, but ala recycles vit. c and e so use it with those. Vit c is water soluble and vit e is fat soluble so they protect dif. parts of the body.
    Therefore extra vitamin C is wasted money producing expensive urine, and extra vitamin E is a potentially damaging excess if you have a decent multi already.

    ALA owns vitamin C and E though, for the record.

    Don't know a lot about DMAE, but I know it's good for synapse response or nerve growth. Maybe some type of adaptogen?

  11. my stack is basically straight out of bill romanowski's book where he lays out his supplements and nutrition

  12. Quote Originally Posted by pavb10 View Post
    u cant take mass fx for 50 days though i dont think.

    yes you can. buy 2 bottles

  13. i think ill buy two bottles and run it for like 5 weeks at 6 caps. Ive read that the x factor doesnt kick in for a week or two so ill take the mass fx for the last thirty or so days of the stack.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by goslamacamel View Post
    Therefore extra vitamin C is wasted money producing expensive urine, and extra vitamin E is a potentially damaging excess if you have a decent multi already.

    ALA owns vitamin C and E though, for the record.

    Don't know a lot about DMAE, but I know it's good for synapse response or nerve growth. Maybe some type of adaptogen?
    Theres nothing expensive about vit c, what are u talking about?

    Thats not the way to look at antioxidants, esp. C, E and ALA.

    DMAE is a methyl doner and increases ach.

  15. hey diesel hows a stack of DTH and mass fx look?

  16. i really like mass fx. also when will the DTH two for 74.99 deal be back up on nutraplanet.com?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by pavb10 View Post
    i really like mass fx. also when will the DTH two for 74.99 deal be back up on nutraplanet.com?
    Approx. April 21st (Monday)

  18. most effective 8 week test supplement? ......
    test prop haha

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Approx. April 21st (Monday)
    so I thought, more like the 28th.....but NOS ETHER will finally be back at NP on April 21st.

  20. what about the dth and mass fx together?
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