- 03-22-2008, 07:10 AM
I wanted to post up that I've been loving the. I've been losing fat at a good, steady pace at one pill a day before work (I load trucks at UPS). I love the stuff. It's likely the only thermo/recomp(?) supp that I'll buy again, I never really have liked any that I've tried this much.
I've been wondering, though, what exactly is it that causes the mood boost? I feel amazing and it's ON about twenty minutes after taking it. It's smooth, too, unlike anything I've tried before(and I've tried a LOT).The Truth is, there is no Truth.
- 03-22-2008, 09:44 AM
- 03-22-2008, 10:29 AM
That's what I was thinking one pill? A bottle will last you forever I was taking 4/day and feeling the heat
03-22-2008, 10:29 AM
Do you get the same effects from just taking straight up caffeine? I know when I take caffeine I get a little bit of a boost in mood (anas both caffeine and the new Cir20x which is suppose to be like caffeine on steroids to a very ultra simplified degree.)
Curious what Jacob has to say, because if one of the ingredients does directly boost mood that would be awesome.
Also side note why so low on the dose?
03-22-2008, 01:45 PM
sounds good. could this be more effective then levi-r or we arnt supposed to rate supplements against each other? i noticed no one mentioned what they used before..
03-22-2008, 01:50 PM
03-22-2008, 08:38 PM
As far as the low dose, I'm a classic ecto, I'm maybe around 8-10% bodyfat, and I'm not using it for cutting, I use it to help me stay focused at work and stay warm. So I can get away with just one pill a day. I'm a big fan of the lack of crash, too, though at one pill, I suppose I couldn't crash very hard, anyway.
The Truth is, there is no Truth.
03-23-2008, 02:35 AM
I don't know what to think about these kinds of supplements, I'm curious of course, but I feel manufacturers are being somewhat less candid about what's actually in them than the tobacco companies were about all the chemicals in cigarettes (not directed at any particular company, but this is the general state of things). Alternate names, confusing compounds with deliberately obfuscated nomenclatures, trademark names, proprietary blends, blah blah blah, and its four times worse with all these weird herbals.
The claim that they need to protect their secret ingredients from competitors smacks very false to me, there's only a limited number of compounds for which there is any scientific evidence of efficacy. In the big leagues, everything from Coke to Selsun Blue has the actual ingredients listed right on it. Plus it'd be a true blessing to the industry if companies focused more on their building their brands, quality control, and standards than just being cheap and lazy and pointing the finger at the need for secrecy. RC Cola has the same ingredients as Coca-Cola, generally speaking; People still buy more Coke, LOTS more.
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USP labs seems to be able to do whatever the hell it wants with a supplement. Increasing ATP production in the brain with a fat burning supplement, skin tone enhancement with Powerfull, etc. Y'all should try to make some crazy blend that will block tolerance for phenibut or something. I bet USP could do something badass with a mood enhancement supplement.
03-23-2008, 11:23 PM
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03-24-2008, 10:51 AM
This is the first fat burner I've ever been excited about being released. Can't wait to get me some!