xtreme tren

[conan1071]

xtreme tren by tri city labs. is this more like deca or tren? i ask because the reviews have said more like deca and its name contains tren...

 

[Mass_69]

It's actually like dienolone Atleast that's what it's a precursor to. Don't know any feedback to dienolone, only methyldienolone.

Interesting question, however.

 

[ReaperX]

lol.


19-nor-blah-blah-DIONE is the tren crap, or whatever progestin they call it. I can't keep up with the nomenclature for these progestins.


19-nor-blah-blah-DIOL is the deca prohormone that got banned awhile ago.


Looks like all gurus took the day off, lol.

 

[jasonschaffin]

lol.


19-nor-blah-blah-dione is the tren crap, or whatever progestin they call it.


19-nor-blah-blah-DIOL is the deca prohormone that got banned awhile ago.


Looks like all gurus took the day off, lol.

Actually no. There was also a dione version of the deca prohormone that was banned. The extreme tren product is the dienolone like precursor. You can tell by the 4,9 diene. Dione/Diol has nothing to do with what it converts to. Might actually be interesting for someone to make the 4,9 diol as they usually had more activity than the diones.

 

[ReaperX]

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......told you.




if the old school stuff was not banned 19-Nordiol is something I would actually have considered using. It's piqued my curiosity for awhile.

 

[slow-mun]

Bodybuilding.com - Norandrostenediol Information and Product Listing! Norandrostenediol FAQ!



......told you.




if the old school stuff was not banned 19-Nordiol is something I would actually have considered using. It's piqued my curiosity for awhile.

What exactly did you tell us? You gave information pertaining to 19-Nor-4-Androstene-3,17 diol. He was discussing 19-norandrosta 4,9 diene 3, 17 dione and how it would be interesting as a diol.

 

[rpen22]

......told you.

Nordione and Nordiol are both Nandrolone precursors.

 

[ReaperX]

What exactly did you tell us? You gave information pertaining to 19-Nor-4-Androstene-3,17 diol. He was discussing 19-norandrosta 4,9 diene 3, 17 dione and how it would be interesting as a diol.

I didn't look at the nomenclature for xtreme tren.

 

[rpen22]

That's usually a good starting point.

 

[ReaperX]

I figured it was a Max LMG spin-off or something. Silly me.

 

[Mass_69]

lol.


19-nor-blah-blah-DIONE is the tren crap, or whatever progestin they call it. I can't keep up with the nomenclature for these progestins.


19-nor-blah-blah-DIOL is the deca prohormone that got banned awhile ago.


Looks like all gurus took the day off, lol.

Um, OK.

Reap, did you forget to take your meds... Like I said, it's a precursor to dienolone. It's not nandrolone or tren. Like everyone else said, the -diol & -dione have nothing to do with progestin, nandrolone, tren, etc. The diol/dione has more to do with how/what the the hormone may convert to or metabolites. The more important thing here is the double-bond positions (the -ene).

Nandrolone - 19-norandrost-4-ene-3-one-17b-ol
Dienolone - 19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3-one-17b-ol
Trenbolone - 19-norandrost-4,9,11-triene-3-one-17b-ol

Notice in dienolone says diene, meaning 2 double-bonds (at 4 & 9), and tren says triene, indicating 3 double-bonds (at 4, 9, & 11). Nandrolone simply has one double-bond, at the 4 position.

Tren Xtreme is 19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3,17-dione. The dione means there are 2 ketones (di=2,-one=ketone) at 3b & 17b. When Tren Xtreme interacts with the 17b-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17b-HSD), the 17b-one will become a hydroxyl (-ol), making 19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3-one-17b-ol.

19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3,17-dione + 17b-HSD-->
19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3-one-17b-ol


Mass

 

[wheels]

Um, OK.

Reap, did you forget to take your meds... Like I said, it's a precursor to dienolone. It's not nandrolone or tren. Like everyone else said, the -diol & -dione have nothing to do with progestin, nandrolone, tren, etc. The diol/dione has more to do with how/what the the hormone may convert to or metabolites. The more important thing here is the double-bond positions (the -ene).

Nandrolone - 19-norandrost-4-ene-3-one-17b-ol
Dienolone - 19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3-one-17b-ol
Trenbolone - 19-norandrost-4,9,11-triene-3-one-17b-ol

Notice in dienolone says diene, meaning 2 double-bonds (at 4 & 9), and tren says triene, indicating 3 double-bonds (at 4, 9, & 11). Nandrolone simply has one double-bond, at the 4 position.

Tren Xtreme is 19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3,17-dione. The dione means there are 2 ketones (di=2,-one=ketone) at 3b & 17b. When Tren Xtreme interacts with the 17b-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17b-HSD), the 17b-one will become a hydroxyl (-ol), making 19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3-one-17b-ol.

19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3,17-dione + 17b-HSD-->
19-norandrost-4,9-diene-3-one-17b-ol


Mass

so what is it similar to in terms of effect ?

 

[Mass_69]

so what is it similar to in terms of effect ?

See post #2:

It's actually like dienolone Atleast that's what it's a precursor to. Don't know any feedback to dienolone, only methyldienolone.

 

[jasonschaffin]

I figured it was a Max LMG spin-off or something. Silly me.

Your argument still holds no merit than. MaxLMG was another totally different compound. :trout: