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    T-Force fadogia ?


    What are people's feedback on this ?

    I'm bumping up the caps from 3/ED to 6/ED.


    So far I'm not too impressed with Fadogia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    What are people's feedback on this ?

    I'm bumping up the caps from 3/ED to 6/ED.


    So far I'm not too impressed with Fadogia.
    4 is max dose and over 4 is over kill.

    How long have you been using it?
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    It had an effect on my libido (positive) when I took T-Force for about a month. More aggression in the gym and a libido increase... I wasn't going for bulk or an all out cut, but more of a slight cut and change of routine.
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    Primal Male looks good.
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    At label dose, I noticed mood improvement by the end of the first week, and most of the rest of the normal "high testosterone" sides by the next week. oily skin, acne, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    At label dose, I noticed mood improvement by the end of the first week, and most of the rest of the normal "high testosterone" sides by the next week. oily skin, acne, etc.
    Now introducing fadogia! "All the negative sides of high testosterone without the anabolic activity!"

    haha. jk.
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    lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    Now introducing fadogia! "All the negative sides of high testosterone without the anabolic activity!"

    haha. jk.
    I had to just list the noticeable sides as I was taking way too much other stuff to really know how useful the t-force was in terms of muscle growth. all of it i had been taking for 3 weeks before I started t-force, so those changes were noticeable. plus I was still in that window of my first 6 months of heavy training so I was getting easy gains no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    What are people's feedback on this ?

    I'm bumping up the caps from 3/ED to 6/ED.


    So far I'm not too impressed with Fadogia.
    I think Matt has a moneyback policy if it doesn't increase your testosterone a certain amount of ng/dL.
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    I've been on T-Force for about a week. I'll keep it at 4 caps/ED.


    I noticed when I took Diesel Test (except for the 2040 version). I also has really good success with ActivaTe (the older version).


    We'll see if anything pans out
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    I've been on T-Force for about a week. I'll keep it at 4 caps/ED.


    I noticed when I took Diesel Test (except for the 2040 version). I also has really good success with ActivaTe (the older version).


    We'll see if anything pans out
    contact matt, found a thread on another board where a guy claims a lot of the caps were half full or less. weighed the contents out at 450mg, should have been 750. last i heard matt was looking into it and taking it seriously, he seems like a decent guy pm him your batch number.
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    The caps are white so it has not occured to me to open them up or weigh them. Generic Labz also had this problem as well before. I think I posted that somewhere. It is probably a manuf. problem or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    The caps are white so it has not occured to me to open them up or weigh them. Generic Labz also had this problem as well before. I think I posted that somewhere. It is probably a manuf. problem or something.
    absolutely! matt seemed kinda pissed off to hear about the manufacturing snafu. i didn't post this to punk out omega, just wanted to give you a heads-up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    absolutely! matt seemed kinda pissed off to hear about the manufacturing snafu. i didn't post this to punk out omega, just wanted to give you a heads-up.
    Supplier mix-ups freaking suck. Matt is right off to be pissed, and is probably holding a passive recall (again, not fun).
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    At label dose, I noticed mood improvement by the end of the first week, and most of the rest of the normal "high testosterone" sides by the next week. oily skin, acne, etc.
    I noticed about the same.. My libido was through the roof within a few days, and other effects that are associated with elevated test, about a week later.


    I think i respond exceptionally well to it. Going to be trying primal male forsure.
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    Reaper- Maybe drop ur DTH for a lil bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Supplier mix-ups freaking suck. Matt is right off to be pissed, and is probably holding a passive recall (again, not fun).
    last post he was on phone with manufacturer, bet that wasn't a pleasant conversation.
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    companies should prob pull a few bottles and weigh caps themselves to double check.

    i think im gonna start weighing caps now LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    Reaper- Maybe drop ur DTH for a lil bit.

    Yeah, I think that's what I'm going to do. I was contemplating putting DTH away for awhile and I probably will.
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    How recent was the Omega T-Force recall ?


    Is his name on here: custom_ ?

    If so I'll PM him my lot number for my product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    How recent was the Omega T-Force recall ?


    Is his name on here: custom_ ?

    If so I'll PM him my lot number for my product.
    no recall so far, last news i heard he was talking with manufacturer. i suggest you go to omega's site and contact them there. i heard matt's pm box is full. btw did you check how full your pills are?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    What are people's feedback on this ?

    I'm bumping up the caps from 3/ED to 6/ED.


    So far I'm not too impressed with Fadogia.
    I tried the original Fadogia compound MyoGenX and got huge libido boost.

    For some reason T-Force didnt do that for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    no recall so far, last news i heard he was talking with manufacturer. i suggest you go to omega's site and contact them there. i heard matt's pm box is full. btw did you check how full your pills are?


    I pulled out 4 pills and they look full from what I can see. We have a scale at the office in our lab, but I'm not sure if weighing pills on them is a good idea. They'll think I'm pimpin' gear or something. Esp, since I work for the government. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    I pulled out 4 pills and they look full from what I can see. We have a scale at the office in our lab, but I'm not sure if weighing pills on them is a good idea. They'll think I'm pimpin' gear or something. Esp, since I work for the government. lol.
    just tell them you are on a top secret assignment. LL
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    How recent was the Omega T-Force recall ?


    Is his name on here: custom_ ?

    If so I'll PM him my lot number for my product.
    It kind of sounded like they would all actually be within one run... which could be problematic. I have a bottle of it, and weighed out some of the caps - I found a few that fell short on content, but I haven't opened them yet (just isolated them from the rest). I've only got a resolution of .1g (100mg) unfortunately, as I don't trust many of the .01g resolution scales. Wait and see what he says for now, I guess.
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    i'll check for the lot number on the bottle sometime when i go home.
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    the thread is 'why i wont buy t-force again' in the supplement section at bb.com. btw matt seems to be a stand up guy, i think omega and palo alto have shown honesty and integrity do pay off. this is the kind of stuff this industry needs to see more of.
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    eh, bb.com.


    ..........................figu res.


    bb.com has a lot of degenerates and people with mental instabilities I've noticed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    eh, bb.com.


    ..........................figu res.


    bb.com has a lot of degenerates and people with mental instabilities I've noticed.
    you are right, but this thread is legit. i wouldn't have brought i up if matt hadn't conceded there was a real concern.
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    Having something like that happen isn't quite that big of a deal, underfilling caps.


    but having the wrong ingredients like CEL/BCS M1,4-ADD and I'm sure some other stuff out there is even worse.


    Generic Labz had a bunch of caps underfilled in one run of Cissus-Drol.


    I can't remember what supplement it was that I bought awhile back, I think it was a multi-vitamin, anyways no one thinks to count their pills to make sure they are the right amount.

    The bottle I had was 3 pills short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    Having something like that happen isn't quite that big of a deal, underfilling caps.


    but having the wrong ingredients like CEL/BCS M1,4-ADD and I'm sure some other stuff out there is even worse.


    Generic Labz had a bunch of caps underfilled in one run of Cissus-Drol.


    I can't remember what supplement it was that I bought awhile back, I think it was a multi-vitamin, anyways no one thinks to count their pills to make sure they are the right amount.

    The bottle I had was 3 pills short.
    hey, you said you were thinking about upping dose to get more effect. just thought the possibility of underdosed caps was relevant to conversation. not trying to cause drama here just passing on information that might be helpfull.
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    lol, i checked one capsule and it was like half full.


    I'm going to check the rest when I go home. This is b.s.
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    Well, I don't see any batch number on the bottle. I bought this from nutraplanet.

    It is pretty evident that the caps are not adequately filled. I can pinch the whole capsule and it completely caves in.


    I thought it was kinda weird how many gelatin capsules were indented on the tops of the capsules, (caved in already).

    Lol, boy am I oblivious.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    Well, I don't see any batch number on the bottle. I bought this from nutraplanet.

    It is pretty evident that the caps are not adequately filled. I can pinch the whole capsule and it completely caves in.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    That sucks.

    yeah this is the second time around this has occured to me.


    .............................. ...that was money well spent.

    I need to get this bottle replaced ASAP.


    the generic labz with cissus-drol had the same issue and now this.

    Next thing I find out my vitamins are actually sugar pills...haha.





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    Sorry to hear it bro.. It blows because IMO it is such a solid product. Hopefully they make good on it.

    Now you are making me want to go check the bottle i have unopened in my supp stash..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    yeah this is the second time around this has occured to me.


    .............................. ...that was money well spent.

    I need to get this bottle replaced ASAP.


    the generic labz with cissus-drol had the same issue and now this.

    Next thing I find out my vitamins are actually sugar pills...haha.





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    Quote Originally Posted by imprezivr6 View Post
    Sorry to hear it bro.. It blows because IMO it is such a solid product. Hopefully they make good on it.

    Now you are making me want to go check the bottle i have unopened in my supp stash..lol
    if they replace it, it's all good. The caps are def. underdosed.

    when you check it out. Look at the caps and give them a small squeeze. My easily flex and cave in. I've twised several caps open to see, and they are underfilled.
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