[Force of Green]

I have had some extensive experience when it comes to stimulants and have used (off the top of my head):

Hot Rox (old formula and Extreme)
Tight
Lipo 6 (with and without ephedra)
Thermal Rage
Venom (old and new)
Stimulant X
Stacker 2, Stacker 3, Yellow Jackets, Yellow Subs
ThyroSlim
Zantrex 3
MHP Takeoff
Methyl Ripped
E/C/A stack, E/C/Y stack
.... many others. I think the point has been made, now I'm beating a dead horse. lol.

I have been diagnosed with atypical depression and ADHD by several psychologists, psychiatrists, and social workers (there are some good ones, yes). At first I was very oppositional to the diagnosis and would deny it without even taking the time to research the criteria and different subtypes. After some time on a terrible substance (methamphetamine) and some reflection on the diagnosis in retrospect to my life after age 9, I've come to terms with and owned up to my condition.

Granted there is no 100% way to know that one has a certain psychological disorder (even if he/she matches most of the symptom criteria), I've travelled a long, hard road not knowing what the hell or who the hell is stopping me from having a good life... I realized that it's me that's stopping myself, but it's also a predisposed condition. I'm not responsible for it, but I am responsible for it's treatment.

While I understand that it is not a wise choice to try and remedy a disorder using illegal substances, unsupervised medicine, or certain 'dietary substances', I got to the point when I'd try anything within certain reason to give myself a boost out of the depression.

Anyhow, long story short... I remembered using the old Meltdown formula by VPX (got it for free from my buddy at the Vitamin Shoppe) and I used it at 2 caps morning and 1-2 caps afternoon and actually used it for an extended amount of time (not recommended). It was the 1 'thermo' that actually calmed down my anxiety and allowed me to function with smooth, all day energy.

I read some forums and user reviews on the new Meltdown and decided to give it a shot.

Today is my first day using it. I must say that I'm impressed thus far. I dosed 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps early afternoon. I felt more focused, a little more motivation (slight but noticable), my untamed appetite became manageable, my mood was elevated, and I became more concerned with living in the moment other than sitting around being consumed by anxiety and distraction. The energy had a smooth onset of action, yet didn't take forever to get started. It took 20 minutes to 'feel it' and lasts for hours. It's 9:00pm now and I can't even really feel it tapering off, but it is! It's really smooth. My appetite is still under control, my mood is still good, but I'm not tweaked out like some stims leave you feeling. Most other stims leave me feeling burnt out, crashed, tweaked, or let down when they wear off...

My mealplan today was:

10:00AM - 2 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, 2 pieces of 8 grain toast

2:00PM - Fire Roasted chicken, asparagus

5:00PM - Salad, 2 hardboiled eggs, small protein shake

7:00PM - Chicken, asparagus

I feel I can go home now and eat maybe one more chicken and some veggies and almonds, then go to sleep.

Dunno if this inspires anyone looking for a good energy supp/fatburner, but WITH MY EXPERIENCE...

VPX Meltdown is the one supplement that lives up to all of it's claims (minus the fatburning, too soon to tell) and exceeds my expectations.

[T-Bone]

Originally Posted by Force of Green

I have had some extensive experience when it comes to stimulants and have used (off the top of my head):

Hot Rox (old formula and Extreme)
Tight
Lipo 6 (with and without ephedra)
Thermal Rage
Venom (old and new)
Stimulant X
Stacker 2, Stacker 3, Yellow Jackets, Yellow Subs
ThyroSlim
Zantrex 3
MHP Takeoff
Methyl Ripped
E/C/A stack, E/C/Y stack
.... many others. I think the point has been made, now I'm beating a dead horse. lol.

I have been diagnosed with atypical depression and ADHD by several psychologists, psychiatrists, and social workers (there are some good ones, yes). At first I was very oppositional to the diagnosis and would deny it without even taking the time to research the criteria and different subtypes. After some time on a terrible substance (methamphetamine) and some reflection on the diagnosis in retrospect to my life after age 9, I've come to terms with and owned up to my condition.

Granted there is no 100% way to know that one has a certain psychological disorder (even if he/she matches most of the symptom criteria), I've travelled a long, hard road not knowing what the hell or who the hell is stopping me from having a good life... I realized that it's me that's stopping myself, but it's also a predisposed condition. I'm not responsible for it, but I am responsible for it's treatment.

While I understand that it is not a wise choice to try and remedy a disorder using illegal substances, unsupervised medicine, or certain 'dietary substances', I got to the point when I'd try anything within certain reason to give myself a boost out of the depression.

Anyhow, long story short... I remembered using the old Meltdown formula by VPX (got it for free from my buddy at the Vitamin Shoppe) and I used it at 2 caps morning and 1-2 caps afternoon and actually used it for an extended amount of time (not recommended). It was the 1 'thermo' that actually calmed down my anxiety and allowed me to function with smooth, all day energy.

I read some forums and user reviews on the new Meltdown and decided to give it a shot.

Today is my first day using it. I must say that I'm impressed thus far. I dosed 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps early afternoon. I felt more focused, a little more motivation (slight but noticable), my untamed appetite became manageable, my mood was elevated, and I became more concerned with living in the moment other than sitting around being consumed by anxiety and distraction. The energy had a smooth onset of action, yet didn't take forever to get started. It took 20 minutes to 'feel it' and lasts for hours. It's 9:00pm now and I can't even really feel it tapering off, but it is! It's really smooth. My appetite is still under control, my mood is still good, but I'm not tweaked out like some stims leave you feeling. Most other stims leave me feeling burnt out, crashed, tweaked, or let down when they wear off...

My mealplan today was:

10:00AM - 2 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, 2 pieces of 8 grain toast

2:00PM - Fire Roasted chicken, asparagus

5:00PM - Salad, 2 hardboiled eggs, small protein shake

7:00PM - Chicken, asparagus

I feel I can go home now and eat maybe one more chicken and some veggies and almonds, then go to sleep.

Dunno if this inspires anyone looking for a good energy supp/fatburner, but WITH MY EXPERIENCE...

VPX Meltdown is the one supplement that lives up to all of it's claims (minus the fatburning, too soon to tell) and exceeds my expectations.

Clebutrex, I think it was called was the best thermo/energy supplement I had ever used. It was made by VPX, even though I really despise that company.

[Force of Green]

Originally Posted by T-Bone

Clebutrex, I think it was called was the best thermo/energy supplement I had ever used. It was made by VPX, even though I really despise that company.

I hear ya. I've heard GREAT things on Clenbutrx (or however it's spelled). I don't like the price of VPX supps and the price alone scares away a number of people. I don't know 'enough' about methylating and esterfying certain compounds, however, I do know that there are some stuff popping into the industry that is merely some ancient ingredient with an ester or methyl attachment... VPX tends to esterfy a lot of debatable things.

I must say though, I experience nothing but horror with caffeine. I think caffeine should be controlled as much as booze. In my opinion, it makes morning commuters extremely irritable, it has a crash that leaves you worse than you were without it, it has some sickening withdrawal symptoms if taken long enough, and a few others. I take back the 'controlled statement', but I do believe that too many substances rape people with faulty labels and too much caffeine from different sources, or unspecified amounts in proprietary blends.

...The energy I feel is from the other stuff in the formula and my serving has 150 mg of caffeine, which isn't much compared to the others out there.

I can not attest to every product by VPX, but as far as Meltdown, I like the way it makes me feel AND I like the lack of things that it doesn't make me feel.

[pata320]

Sup Force!
I too have tried the new VPX meltdown and do feel the appetite department is down and yohimbine is always nice to me down south.

and yes, WELCOME BACK!!! I too was getting worried along with other members here but figured what had happened. So your working out is getting back in order? Fn' RIPPED BABY!!!

[warbird01]

Just wanted to let u know 8 grain bread probably isnt whole wheat. Never seen 8 grain but i know my local grocery store sells "7 grain" bread and its just white bread with some grains thrown in to make it look like whole wheat...

[thebigt]

4 or 5 of us had a running review/log on another board, all of us liked meltdown.

[john123131]

edit - il leave that alone.

good luck FOG....glad to see you around again bro.

[ReaperX]

When I was at the gym about a month or so ago, I remember I saw a girl walking around with really tight low cut pants. It said 'Redline' on them.


She was probably a local or area expo girl or something. I didn't put 2 and 2 together when I saw that.

[Aggravated]

I have a bottle of this I am going to try in the future. Wonder how it would work stacked with ephed?

[Force of Green]

Haha. What's going on Pat? Good to see you too.

Thanks for the support PaloAltoLabs! I'll opt for some Reset AD pretty soon... I can almost feel it.

Reaper, always look forward to your avatars. This is the funniest by far!

Warbird, unfortunately I'm living at home with the parents once again and although I did ask my mom to look on the back and get anything that doesn't have enriched wheat flour as the main ingredient, I don't feel like hitting her with a stick over it. lol. I will eat it if it tastes good and is wholesome

[Force of Green]

Originally Posted by Aggravated

I have a bottle of this I am going to try in the future. Wonder how it would work stacked with ephed?

I wouldn't... but that's just my chemistry. WAY to high norepinephrine IMO. You'd be better off stacking with propylhexedrine (half a benzedrex inhaler capped). LOL. Propyl raises dopamine primarily.

[Force of Green]

Propylhexedrine was marketed under a diet pill called Eventin. Not sure if it's still around, but it's actions are more potent than the E/C stack.

[3clipseGT]

Ive gone thru 2 bottles of this stuff and i LOVE it!