I just started NOX-CG3 by xyience, first time I went beyond traditional creatine monohydrate, and I'm happy to say I don't feel queasy or bloated, and I noticed a bit more firmness in my muscles right away vs. normal creatine. it's got a few different variations of creatine in it as well as a couble BCAA's and a lot of taurine. However, I didn't feel like I was on any stims and if you Wiki Taurine it says that while it's a very popular ingrdient in energy drinks, etc, it doesn't actually have a stimulating effect, which now after having it in something non caffeinated for once, I can agree with. Gonna try Ragnarok next time around as I keep hearing about it, and I have a norweigan blood line.