dhea and the best way to use it

king1033 · 03-06-2008, 04:42 PM

Ok so ive read up a bit on dhea and 7-keto now is it beneficial at all to take a low dose of either for lean muscle gains or strength gains, as i hear too much can lead to cancer (mostly prostate)

im thinking about putting one or the other in a transdermal cream, i just wanna hear anyones feedback who has used either. any feedback much appreciated

later

also it just seems liek dhea can have anti-catabolic properties like thats all the new halodrol is, is like 7-keto and dhea and even then people said they gained a lb or 2 and leaned out a tad, so i assume low dosing the dhea at say about 100mg a day could have some nice effects as well as being good for your immune system no??

king1033 · 03-06-2008, 04:51 PM

king1033 · 03-06-2008, 10:29 PM

60 veiws nobody?? bumpy bumpy

LatSpread · 03-06-2008, 10:53 PM

If your under 40 (which I'm assuming you are) then dhea will do little to nothing for you, even at moderately high doses.

7-keto supps WERE good for anti cortisol, but new supps such as Retain 2 are much better at controlling cortisol, which has helped me greatly on bulks and even moreso on cuts and as part of PCT.

pudzian2 · 03-06-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LatSpread

If your under 40 (which I'm assuming you are) then dhea will do little to nothing for you, even at moderately high doses.

7-keto supps WERE good for anti cortisol, but new supps such as Retain 2 are much better at controlling cortisol, which has helped me greatly on bulks and even moreso on cuts and as part of PCT.

dhea at 50mg during pct helps my mood and my sex drive, and just overall. maybe a higher dose when ON cycle. since I cycle frequently....I guess I use dhea frequently... and I am under 40 so therefore I conclude it does have use to those with a similar lifestyle

LatSpread · 03-06-2008, 10:58 PM

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dhea at 50mg during pct helps my mood and my sex drive, and just overall. maybe a higher dose when ON cycle. since I cycle frequently....I guess I use dhea frequently... and I am under 40 so therefore I conclude it does have use to those with a similar lifestyle

Im under the impression the OP does not use anabolics, therefore the dhea is useless at his young-middle age.

king1033 · 03-06-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pudzian2

dhea at 50mg during pct helps my mood and my sex drive, and just overall. maybe a higher dose when ON cycle. since I cycle frequently....I guess I use dhea frequently... and I am under 40 so therefore I conclude it does have use to those with a similar lifestyle

just the answer i was looking 4

LatSpread · 03-06-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by king1033

just the answer i was looking 4

The whole thing is on cycle and as part of PCT dhea is great, but if natural its not. (I dunno if your natty or not)

king1033 · 03-06-2008, 11:31 PM

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The whole thing is on cycle and as part of PCT dhea is great, but if natural its not. (I dunno if your natty or not)

why would u said for on cycle and pct it is great?? just wanna hear your logic on that, thanks again for the replys guys

LatSpread · 03-06-2008, 11:34 PM

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why would u said for on cycle and pct it is great?? just wanna hear your logic on that, thanks again for the replys guys

My view is simply that putting dhea in your body your putting a mild prohormone in your body and as we all know PHs tend to decrease libido and natural test production.

king1033 · 03-06-2008, 11:37 PM

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My view is simply that putting dhea in your body your putting a mild prohormone in your body and as we all know PHs tend to decrease libido and natural test production.

but then on the other side of that spectrum mild PH also tend to put on a litttle tinny bit of size and definition

LatSpread · 03-06-2008, 11:39 PM

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but then on the other side of that spectrum mild PH also tend to put on a litttle tinny bit of size and definition

a tiny bit is the key, I tried multiple dosages of dhea solo when we had extra bottles at the GNC I worked at years back, and it gave me no gains and shut down my libido mildly.

pudzian2 · 03-07-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LatSpread

The whole thing is on cycle and as part of PCT dhea is great, but if natural its not. (I dunno if your natty or not)

that is correct. for the young NON AAS, NON hypo- gonadal male....dhea is not necessary

pudzian2 · 03-07-2008, 12:05 AM

right obviously it isnt needed IF testosterone levels are stable and peaked. IF you are in PCT or ON cycle then it would help. IT DOES help the body produce more testosterone by other means than its conversion. (you compared it to a ph)...eh im not so sure. its a ph that's part of the bodies normal system anyway so i wouldnt consider it 'suppressive' per-say. I think the effects on your libido came about becuase you used it when it was not beneficial like you said. also it could be from the extra estro that dhea creates.

**Dr Packenwood** · 03-07-2008, 12:15 AM

When I'm 'on' I dose 100mg to 150mg per day. I don't use it if I'm not using anything else. I use it mainly to help fight lethargy.

Link24 · 03-07-2008, 12:18 AM

From my understanding dhea levels start to decline in the early 20s so it may be benificial to young men under 40.