[Sldge]

Originally Posted by USPLabs

Nettle root 95% extract.

Oh ok I thought it was the different Icariin extracts.

[Sldge]

Bobo thanks for fixing my avatar.

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel

It really doesnt matter the percent of the extract (7%, 10%, 95%), what matters is the total amount of avenacosides per daily serving......as with any active.

True, but with a pure extract, we can eliminate 95% of other compounds in that particular powder. Which could be beneficial or could be counter productive.

Whoes to say a 10% avena does not contain an unknown compound that increases estrogen..etc

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by Designer Supps

Oh ok I thought it was the different Icariin extracts.

It was both..

[Chuck Diesel]

Originally Posted by DAdams91982

I agree on this. I have seen studies on animals that trib was administered intraveiniously, and caused a rise in LH in animals. Then at the bottom of the study it says "This was PROBABLY the result of protodiocin.

Then here comes the product standardized for the shlt.

Adams

dude seriously, you ignorant comments are getting annoying. I said other actives in tribulus incease LH not protodiocin, I didn't say protodiocin didn't serve a purpose in a full spectum extract of the right tribulus plant. herbal supplements are not always about one active. dth list its protodiocin content because that's what people want to see, that doesn't mean the exract is only standardized for protodiocin, I use to list the other actives with amounts on the label but as you see now I don't go into "deep" detail on every herb as in extract ratios and/or standardization

[bolt10]

Originally Posted by USPLabs

True, but with a pure extract, we can eliminate 95% of other compounds in that particular powder. Which could be beneficial or could be counter productive.

Whoes to say a 10% avena does not contain an unknown compound that increases estrogen..etc

this idea is something that i was thinking about lately, alot to do with how people complained less about the stomach issues with Bolic than the lower % extracts...

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by bolt10

this idea is something that i was thinking about lately, alot to do with how people complained less about the stomach issues with Bolic than the lower % extracts...

I for one would like to use the isolated compound studied than get it from a crude product, but everyone has a different philosophy.

[bolt10]

Originally Posted by USPLabs

I for one would like to use the isolated compound studied than get it from a crude product, but everyone has a different philosophy.

yea it was just some interesting food for thought as i had never thought about all the extra stuff in the extracts

[DAdams91982]

Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel

dude seriously, you ignorant comments are getting annoying. I said other actives in tribulus incease LH not protodiocin, I didn't say protodiocin didn't serve a purpose in a full spectum extract of the right tribulus plant. herbal supplements are not always about one active. dth list its protodiocin content because that's what people want to see, that doesn't mean the exract is only standardized for protodiocin, I use to list the other actives with amounts on the label but as you see now I don't go into "deep" detail on every herb as in extract ratios and/or standardization

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I'll leave this alone.

Adams

[EasyEJL]

Originally Posted by bolt10

yea it was just some interesting food for thought as i had never thought about all the extra stuff in the extracts

the funny thing is that it could go either way. If studies are done with a 10% extract of fubarcides from bs, it might be the fubaricides that are doing whatever happened, or it might be something in the other 90% of bs can't tell really unless you re-run the studies with the higher extract

[bolt10]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

the funny thing is that it could go either way. If studies are done with a 10% extract of fubarcides from bs, it might be the fubaricides that are doing whatever happened, or it might be something in the other 90% of bs can't tell really unless you re-run the studies with the higher extract

yea all this is hurting my head so many possible reasonings...or maybe its just my exam notes that are hurting my head......

[LilPsychotic]

Originally Posted by SupremeSE

I wrote this for my SSF forums, I think you'll appreciate it.


Anabolic Herbs: The Supplement Industry TRUTH

By Ross



Chapter 1- Testosterone Boosters



Tribulus Terrestris



Tribulus is probably the most popular anabolic herb. Unfortunately, it has also been the victim of Supplement Industry DECEIT. You see, Tribulus Terrestris PLANT is almost USELESS. It only contains a trace amount of the ACTIVE CHEMICAL responsible for increasing LH/Testosterone, a Frustanol Saponin called Protodioscin. It is PROTODIOSCIN that matters, and PROTODIOSCIN ONLY! But this is where things get even TRICKIER...

Tribulus contains MANY Frustanol Saponins. BUT, the ONY Frustanol Saponin that matters is PROTODIOSCIN. many supplement companies will sell a Tribulus product containing 40% Frustanol Saponins, but it only has 2% Protodioscin or LESS! Make sure your Tribulus product is STANDRADIZED extract containing 10% Protodioscin or HIGHER. AndroGenerator contains 20% PROTODIOSCIN!




Eurycoma Longifolia



Eurycoma Longifolia has been used for centuries by the Asian population. Touted for it's ability to increase PENIS SIZE, the Malaysian government began to closely resarch the herb. In their studies, they discovered that Eurycoma increased testosterone levels and then IDENTIFIED the active chemicals responsible for the documented effects. These "Eurypeptides and Glycosapins" have been CLINICALLY PROVEN to not only increase total and free TESTOSTERONE, to also also incerase HGH & IGF-1, while simultaneously decreasing cortisol and increasing cAMP.

LJ100 is the ONLY STANDARDIZED Eurycoma Longifolia extract in the WORLD, containing 22% bioactive Eurypeptides. Products containing "Tongkat Ali" or "Long Jack" are NOT to be confused with the ONLY STANDARDIZED Eurycoma extract in the WORLD. AndroGenerator contains 300mgs of LJ100!



Vitex Agnus Castus

Vitex is an incredible herb that not only increases TESTOSTERONE, it also decreases ESTROGEN AND PROLACTIN! There is no other herb that will totally enhance the male hormonal profile like Vitex. Vitex is an important inclusion to an herbal testosterone booster, as it will not only help to further enhance testosterone production, it will also maintain healthy levels of estrogen and prolactin.

Make sure that any supplement containing Vitex is standardized for at least .5% avenoscides, and is dosed at 150-200mgs per serving. Many companies underdose or use inferior quality extracts. Do not be fooled! AndroGenerator contains 200mgs of Vitex per serving.


To be continued.....

So this product will indeed increase my penis size?

[SupremeSE]

Originally Posted by LilPsychotic

So this product will indeed increase my penis size?

You will absolutely experience longer and thicker erections, as well as increased sensitvity and increased orgasm intensity. It will not PERMANENTLY INCREASE the size of your penis, just like testosterone won't. AndroGenerator(much like Proviron) will increase overall sexual performance.

[LakunaKoil]

Chuch how much u bench