[MrBrightside]

I checked out Incarnate's ingredients, and found that it contained 2g of beta alanine, 600mg of Cissus for joint & ligament support, and a 244mg blend of Histidine and Betaine HCl. Heres the question:

To someone who does not need the aid of the cissus for joint support, is Incarnate still worth the money over bulk beta alanine? Does the 244mg blend of Histidine and Betaine redeem the product? Or can you find Histidine and Betaine chemicals in any basic amino acid supplement?

I ask this because I could buy a bulk beta alanine supplement for 20 cents/serving and throw an amino acid supplement into the mix for the same results of Incarnate without the cissus, for a much lower price.

[MEH89]

That is a very good question my friend.

[nephilim666]

yea i dont c why that wudnt work. save urself some money.

[CryingEmo]

What is betaine?

[john123131]

if you dont want the cissus, grab some bulk beta alanine. Incarnate is great, but if your trying to save some cash, or just dont like cissus/have need for it, bulk works.

[MrBrightside]

Originally Posted by CryingEmo

What is betaine?

It's a non-essential acid that aids in the digestion of protein and fats. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's fairly common among amino acids, making it kind of a cop-out ingredient.

[john123131]

Originally Posted by MrBrightside

It's a non-essential acid that aids in the digestion of protein and fats. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's fairly common among amino acids, making it kind of a cop-out ingredient.

cop-out...lol...right on bud

[MrBrightside]

Lol, I didn't mean offense by that, though I can see why I came off as a toolbag. I meant more along the lines of the ingredient would just lose emphasis to someone who already uses a betaine kind of thing.

[mooch2321]

isnt the cissus extract in incarnate going to be more anabolic than it actually supports joint health? it seems to me that any thing that adds a little muscle has got to be worth a try

[bubbachew]

why wouldn't someone want cissus?

[bLacKjAck.]

Originally Posted by bubbachew

why wouldn't someone want cissus?

hmmmm....

[LakunaKoil]

Why does Incarnate have added Histidine ?

Originally Posted by Athletic Edge N

Shouldn’t I take extra histidine along with Beta-Alanine since histidine is a component of carnosine?

No. Histidine is already present in high concentrations in muscle, while Beta-Alanine is only present only in small amounts. Researchers have determined that it is beta-alanine that drives carnosine synthesis, not histidine. Since this has been proven repeatedly in research, there is no need to supplement with extra histidine to increase carnosine levels. There are potentially some select populations like vegans, vegetarians or the elderly that may not get enough histidine in their diets and are thus deficient, which may compromise optimal carnosine levels. But, we still don’t recommend taking just extra histidine with Beta-Alanine. Instead, we recommend these groups and simply bump up their total protein intake which will in turn solve their possible histidine deficiency. For the majority of healthy people, only Beta –Alanine is needed as histidine deficiency is rare and no extra supplementation is needed to increase carnosine concentrations.

[Australian made]

Originally Posted by bubbachew

why wouldn't someone want cissus?

um like he said. much cheaper to just buy bulk BA. if he wanted cissus then he could just buy that in bulk as well.

[john123131]

if he wanted to yes. Im not gonna hound people or throw our products in peoples face left and right...bulk beta alanine works fine. I love the feeling and results from Incarnate, but to each their own when it comes to supplements.

[Palo Alto Labs]

MAny companies sell Beta Alanine alone, capped for like $30 for a month's supply
Most companies sell cissus for about $20-$25 a bottle

Incarnate is $25 on NP right now...

So if you are ONLY interested in BA... then sure. you could save a few bucks by pickin up the bulk.
But for the price... you really cannot beat it

both BA and cissus have leaning properties, strength properties, etc

at the end of the day... its up to you

[Palo Alto Labs]

Originally Posted by LakunaKoil

Why does Incarnate have added Histidine ?

Sure... in a perfect world.... everyone consumes enough histidine, but since its vit