In your opinion what is the best multi out there, and do you use them?
For me, I love Animal Pak and try to make sure to use it opposed to others.
Thoughts?
For me, I love Animal Pak and try to make sure to use it opposed to others.
Thoughts?
I disagree with your thoughts on Animal Pak, I have had no ill effects after using it at times for over 1 year straightcentrum & animal pack.. GARBAGE. both are poorly formulated and have amounts of certain nutrientss that could be detrimental to health if taken for extended periods of time.
gnc one is ok, but WAY overpriced. uses cheap nutrient forms.
the only decent multi put out by a sports oriented company is ACTIVATE by mhp... its 100x better than the aforementioned, and cheaper.
2 grams of calcium (not to mention whatever youre getting in your diet) w/ low levels of vitamin D and no k1 or k2 is a recipe for soft tissue calcification... these exact circumstances have been shown to lead to brain lesions in older men.I disagree with your thoughts on Animal Pak, I have had no ill effects after using it at times for over 1 year straight
you check the data for human studies on the different forms of nutrients, and you can guestimate how much you are absorbingOne more thing: How do you all out there know you're absorbing what's on the label?
you should not be taking supplemental iron unless you have been proven anemic through blood testingOne more thing: How do you all out there know you're absorbing what's on the label?
i'm not gonna dig up the pubmed studies for you, but they are there if you wanna find them. i assure you regardless of how you FEEL, you are damaging your body. these type of effects go 'under the radar' as far as what is 'felt'... you wont feel these things, but they will effect you in the long run.I dont dispute your numbers (however a source for them would be nice) but I do know I feel very good on it, and have used it for quite a while
i doubt any studies have been done following around users of animal pack for 20, 30, 40 years... if its even been around that long.Well it has been a while on it, without even a shred of what you describe
Vitalizer works and is the best. It absorbs. I know because I read the study's they did on it before releasing it to make sure it absorbed 100%.Does anyone use AST's multi? What's the thought on it?
One more thing: How do you all out there know you're absorbing what's on the label?
also garbageI have used AST's 32x it is solid, however never really had a good feeling bout it in terms of any personal "internal feeling"
Correct. The optimal form would be zinc gluconatezinc oxide is poorly absorbed
That would seem to be the evident answer but the quality of the nutrients vary drastically from one brand to the next.you check the data for human studies on the different forms of nutrients, and you can guestimate how much you are absorbing
Most likely due to the fact that not many nutritional companies have. A handful at best.i doubt any studies have been done following around users of animal pack for 20, 30, 40 years... if its even been around that long.
This is one of the reasons why I inquired regarding AST's multi. Every single time I have taken it in the past (with food by the way) it created the most horrid, sharp stomach pains. It was like having a cramp in the middle of the abdominal area. It seems I'm not the only one that experienced negative side effects from AST's multi.I used AST's 32x Pro which is fine. For some people it gave them a queasy feeling in their stomachs. Occasionally it would do the same with me if I took it on an empty stomach.
This is one of the reasons why I inquired regarding AST's multi. Every single time I have taken it in the past (with food by the way) it created the most horrid, sharp stomach pains. It was like having a cramp in the middle of the abdominal area. It seems I'm not the only one that experienced negative side effects from AST's multi.I used AST's 32x Pro which is fine. For some people it gave them a queasy feeling in their stomachs. Occasionally it would do the same with me if I took it on an empty stomach.
to my knowledge L-methionate and picolinate are the best absorbed and most bioactive forms...Correct. The optimal form would be zinc gluconate)
as long as you know the company is using [3rd party confirmed] usp grading, that should not be an issueThat would seem to be the evident answer but the quality of the nutrients vary drastically from one brand to the next.
im a vegetarian, and i make no effort to supplement iron nor do i go out of my way to eat foods rich in iron. i also run/lift hard 3-5 days per week depending on my schedule. my iron levels are perfect, confirmed through bloodwork.Males do need to be cautious about taking iron as a supplement due to the amount that they typically get in our diet (unless you're a vegetarian). I completely agree with that line of thinking.
but the studies on individual nutrients DO exist... so the correlations can be madeMost likely due to the fact that not many nutritional companies have. A handful at best.
I have to agree, though I am biased. The forms of vitamins are all of the highest quality and it has a large dose of B's, which are great for any athlete.Without a doubt Millennium's ZMK/MVP stack is as good as it gets, but a bit expensive. I just finished up a bottle of MVP today.
Orange Triad from Controlled Labs is a good multi formula with added joint aid. Yes i use this and have been doing for a while now.In your opinion what is the best multi out there, and do you use them?
For me, I love Animal Pak and try to make sure to use it opposed to others.
Thoughts?
Optimum Nutrition's Opti-Men because I can take it 1st thing in the morn. and doesn't cause any upset stomach (even when empty), or bloat. The rec. Dose is 3 tab's but I usually only do 2.In your opinion what is the best multi out there, and do you use them?
For me, I love Animal Pak and try to make sure to use it opposed to others.
Thoughts?
I think Opti-men is 1, 3 times a day, not all at breakfast.Optimum Nutrition's Opti-Men because I can take it 1st thing in the morn. and doesn't cause any upset stomach (even when empty), or bloat. The rec. Dose is 3 tab's but I usually only do 2.
I've been using it ED over 2 years and like it. I have been interested in trying the Orange Triad to vary it up a little.
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