Its amazing what you can put on a label
- 02-09-2008, 12:59 PM
Its amazing what you can put on a label
I really hate some supplement claims
Arimatest 12.50 mg **
Patented Anti-Aromatase Complex of: androst 146 triene 317 dione 6 bromo androst 14 diene 3 17 dione - alpha isomer **
and 6 bromo androst 14 diene 3 17 dione - beta isomer
so 10,000% is increasing it 100x. So an initial test reading of what 24 up to 2400 I guess?Animis Rep
- 02-09-2008, 01:00 PM
- 02-09-2008, 01:25 PM
This looks like a GNC product (which now makes me wonder why GNC doesn't have the balls to carry hyperdrol....grrrrr). At GNC, you HAVE TO have something to support your claims, or they will not carry it with the claims on it (risk management). In fact, that is one of the reasons why AX is doing MassFX university experimentation.
02-09-2008, 01:36 PM
02-09-2008, 01:39 PM
Quote from GNC web site:
"ZRT Laboratory tested* - Scientists at MuscleMeds™ selected ZRT laboratory to validate the free testosterone boosting effects of Arimatest™ in a doctor controlled medical trial. ZRT test results revealed that male subjects showed free testosterone levels were increased up to 10,000% above baseline levels within 1 hour after taking Arimatest™"
If true, must have been tested on severely depressed testosterone levels.
02-09-2008, 01:41 PM
02-09-2008, 01:51 PM
Free testosterone is a lot different than total testosterone, though. This is an important thing to make note of. Seeing as it's called Arimatest, it makes me think of Arimidex, which is cometimes prescribed for men with low testosterone.
The idea that it was tested on males with viropause may not be too far off base. We'll have to see what the research is this company is referencing. Perhaps their testing methods are +/- 5000%
02-09-2008, 01:51 PM
I have a feeling this was "in vitro"
02-09-2008, 02:07 PM
got a e-mail from gnc advertising this-$79.99, for that price it better do something. i can brew a whole lot of tdfor that price and i know the form works...
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02-09-2008, 04:25 PM
Androst 146 triene 317 dione
6 bromo androst 14 diene 3 17 dione - Alpha Isomer
6 bromo androst 14 diene 3 17 dione - Beta Isomer
Damn - underdosed Bromo and ATD... better off just running Hyperdrol and/or Inhibit-E.
02-09-2008, 04:39 PM
This product is 6-bromoandrostadienedione.
(yeah, I thought it was regular 6-bromo when I first read it myself)
The reason they have ATD in the formulation is because it is brominated ATD, that didn't go to full conversion.
02-09-2008, 10:32 PM
Maybe its a 10,000% increase in pre-pubescent females?
What company produces this?
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02-09-2008, 10:38 PM
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02-10-2008, 02:33 AM
The only thing I can say in it's defense is that it's sublingual -- so maybe they can use a lower dosage and still be effective. I don't know...
02-10-2008, 05:22 AM
Well, if they were making a false claim, then couldn't the company get into trouble for false advertising?
I'm sure the company has their own reason for putting that on their label. They most likely ran tests on their product, but we'd have to see exactly what and how it was tested, and the results.
This looks like something you could find in GNC. I always try to stay as far away from that place as humanly possible.
02-10-2008, 10:30 AM
if you can manipulate who you test and how, then you can get to numbers like that.
02-10-2008, 10:56 AM
02-10-2008, 11:00 AM
I bet that if one stacked this with Anabolic Halo, well their results would be........... ummmm............ a skinnier wallet.
02-10-2008, 02:16 PM
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02-11-2008, 01:01 AM
In 2010 the FDA will start regulating nutritional products again I herd from the doctor I work with. There are talks like i.e companys need GMP standards, FDA registered facilitys published studies that are in a double blinded placebo fashion and if the companys do not meet these standards they won't be able to sell them. That is why I am very picky about products I take and people think I am a a-hole for calling out companys but the truth is the truth and think great example. Joe Weider owns muscle and fitness and pushes there own brand. MD pushes Muscle Tech etc. The list goes on. Ed whats his face with no2 claims to foind creatine. When new products burst onto the market, I can cut through the advertising hype quite easily. I simply ask the supplement company making the claims to "show me the research". A reference is a start, but the actual research study on the product is particularly what I am after. I want to see the study, the, the outcome and the University at which the study was conducted. I mean heck you and me can make a product and sell it and make claims make our money and pull out. Look at kevin trudeau and the claims he made about coral calcium and than got in trouble with the FTC. Dr. Phill too got in trobuble with the FTC for product claims. Any how.
02-11-2008, 01:12 AM
WOW, 10,000%. I bet I can beat Jay and Ronnie next year. And I can get it for really cheap if I use my gold card and stack it with french fries and tylenol. Do I need to workout with this? I work at a grocery store so I already get a pretty good workout stacking cans and stuff?
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02-16-2008, 02:58 PM
I asw this advertised in a mag, too friggin funny
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