[poison]

Originally Posted by T-Bone

I didn't say 1 bottle, I said one product. I tried about 6 bottles and didn't have the fat loss effects that are mentioned on your website,


"Radically reduces bodyfat through fat oxidation"

I took 6 caps a day for two months and noticed no difference in fat loss than with my regular diet/exercise/calorie restriction. With Body Octane the suggested dosage is two servings a day so you are only really geting a 25 day(less than a month supply for around $44(Nutraplanet). That is about $1.76 a day. It is just my opinion that that is too much money to spend on a supplement, especially when it won't even last a whole month when taken as suggested.

Sesamin didn't do squat for me, either. Two non-responders does not a useless supplement make. I don't like PowerFull, but I sure would hesitate to throw Super Cissus out with it.


Look at the price breakdown. Gram for gram, Body Octane is marginally more expensive than bulk, but you get ingredients you'll have trouble sourcing in bulk, and it's deliciously flavored, unlike bulk powder. And you won't have supplement dust all over your kitchen from mixing the powders. It's well worth it.

Again, try Clout and report back.

[T-Bone]

Originally Posted by poison

Sesamin didn't do squat for me, either. Two non-responders does not a useless supplement make. I don't like PowerFull, but I sure would hesitate to throw Super Cissus out with it.


Look at the price breakdown. Gram for gram, Body Octane is marginally more expensive than bulk, but you get ingredients you'll have trouble sourcing in bulk, and it's deliciously flavored, unlike bulk powder. And you won't have supplement dust all over your kitchen from mixing the powders. It's well worth it.

Again, try Clout and report back.

I'm NOT doubting Clout or Body Octane effectiveness, just don't agree with the pricing.

[poison]

How do you disagree with this? Do you steal your supplements, because Nutra is cheap!

A 50 serving container of MAN Body Octane High-Voltage sells at retail sites for $43-$48. Here is a price comparison:

175g bulk Citrulline Malate = $23.33
50g bulk Glucuronolactone = $5.00
80g bulk Beta-Alanine = $8.00
37.5g bulk L-Aspartic Acid = $1.88
50g bulk Acetyl-L-Carnitine = $4.67
12.5g bulk Histidine = $1.88
Total bulk price = $44.76

[T-Bone]

Originally Posted by poison

How do you disagree with this? Do you steal your supplements, because Nutra is cheap!

No I love the Planet. It is where I get all my supps.

[poison]

So? The breakdown is right there.

[Big BAMA]

Plus they are 50 servings each, Most No Boosters are 30 servings tops at the same price.

[jasonschaffin]

Originally Posted by T-Bone

I'm NOT doubting Clout or Body Octane effectiveness, just don't agree with the pricing.

poison- How do you disagree with this? Do you steal your supplements, because Nutra is cheap!


Quote:
A 50 serving container of MAN Body Octane High-Voltage sells at retail sites for $43-$48. Here is a price comparison:

175g bulk Citrulline Malate = $23.33
50g bulk Glucuronolactone = $5.00
80g bulk Beta-Alanine = $8.00
37.5g bulk L-Aspartic Acid = $1.88
50g bulk Acetyl-L-Carnitine = $4.67
12.5g bulk Histidine = $1.88
Total bulk price = $44.76

[poison]

When I said unofficial, I meant more as a figment of my imagination. So sure, here's 2 (imaginary) bottles of BluePrint.

[damnglass]

Originally Posted by T-Bone

I didn't say 1 bottle, I said one product. I tried about 6 bottles and didn't have the fat loss effects that are mentioned on your website,


"Radically reduces bodyfat through fat oxidation"

I took 6 caps a day for two months and noticed no difference in fat loss than with my regular diet/exercise/calorie restriction. With Body Octane the suggested dosage is two servings a day so you are only really geting a 25 day(less than a month supply for around $44(Nutraplanet). That is about $1.76 a day. It is just my opinion that that is too much money to spend on a supplement, especially when it won't even last a whole month when taken as suggested.

if it makes you feel any better theirs not many fat burners on the market that do a really good job,i know that any one looking at that ingirdient profile wouldnt really be able to see much,it looks like an old formula,maybe they can discontinue or reformulate.It does look weak.this being said i look forward to buying a bottle or 2 for after a cycle of havoc to minimize feeling like **** and losing my gains,the formula look solid.

[damnglass]

Originally Posted by T-Bone

I didn't say 1 bottle, I said one product. I tried about 6 bottles and didn't have the fat loss effects that are mentioned on your website,


"Radically reduces bodyfat through fat oxidation"

I took 6 caps a day for two months and noticed no difference in fat loss than with my regular diet/exercise/calorie restriction. With Body Octane the suggested dosage is two servings a day so you are only really geting a 25 day(less than a month supply for around $44(Nutraplanet). That is about $1.76 a day. It is just my opinion that that is too much money to spend on a supplement, especially when it won't even last a whole month when taken as suggested.

some supps are worth 2 dollars a serving as they have the cals of a meal not too mention they taste good and loads of goodies,cant argue with that,my fav being torrent.

[stumbras]

Does this product has creatine?

Originally Posted by dinoiii

First, I have had nothing to do with the development of the particular product in question - however, I think the assessment is interesting considering what type of product it is and your notion of using "1" bottle apparently.

I am unsure what you would expect from a Sesamin/Fish Oil product, but think there may be a tad incongruency between what you were expecting out of the product in question and what it should have offered you in return.

And as for the last comment, 50 servings of Clout and Body Octane per bottle with the efficacious dosing offered really tells me that you have simply not tried either. The margins are VERY minimal based on raws there, but I appreciate the feedback - your thoughts are that they should sell for ___(fill in blank please)____?


So, we're clear about pricing:

This comparison has been done before and you can do it yourself in bulk powders - I assure you that you would NOT get the same results in efficacy and/or cost-efficiency. So, I will try and adopt the help of a couple of quoted posters' information because I myself am not big into bulks for a LOT of reasons, plus some have turned up to be rather shady.

But let's offer this for these products because I often get the "too expensive" comment and I am NOT one to agree with this at all about the MAN line for what you get (obviously).

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BODY OCTANE




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CLOUT





Regards,

D_

[poison]

Damnglass, it's not a thermogenic fat burner; it's not going to jack you up through the roof. That doesn't make it 'weak'. It's an EFA formula, with sesamin, and it does everything a formula like that should.

If you want to talk thermogenics, take a look at MAN Scorch, and get back to me.

stumbras, Clout has creatine, and it's the best on the market, I believe. Body Octane stacks really well with it as an endurance aid, or for pumps if that's your thing.

[Force of Green]

We have another case of the uneducated nitwit. Probably the same dude who walks into GNC to buy his mom some calcium chews and walks out with the entire Muscle-Tech line.

[thebigt]

i am on day 7 of primal male, anyone else trying [tried] this?

[jmh80]

I will eventually, bigt - but not yet.