What is your experience on ecdysterone ?
Does that mean you noticed benefits from using it ?i wouldnt say its garbage just maybe cost to benefiet is a little off to make it a regular supp.
But what was the percentage extract? Besides, that is too low of a dose.I used ecty at 900mg a day a few years ago and got absolutely nothing out of it.
Have you run a Methoxy/X-factor stack?I've noticed methoxy alone gives insane pumps on a cut, and I will use again. Ecdy is something I won't spend on.
Not so far, but it gives me a good ideaHave you run a Methoxy/X-factor stack?
It was the Sci-Fit stuff..300mg per cap, this was like 4 years ago though.But what was the percentage extract? Besides, that is too low of a dose.
Tell me how you quantified that it 'helped' with protein synthesis ?Have been on the NutraPlanet Bulk Ecdysterone for about 3 weeks now. Using it while getting ready for a show in April. It does seem to help in regards to recovery, and is best used when dieting in my opinion. Less muscle loss, and helps (if taken 10 minutes prior to protein meal) with protein synthesis!
To quantify something, you need a number and units.Tell me how you quantified that it 'helped' with protein synthesis ?
correct.To quantify something, you need a number and units.
If I had to guess I'd say he was referring to muscle growth/synthesis. Perhaps he took measurements. We are awaiting mwkcronkin's reply.Tell me how you quantified that it 'helped' with protein synthesis ?
It's Cyanotis vaga extracted to 94 % ecdysterone.What extract is NP's ecdy since all companies swear they have the better version of this? Cyanotis vaga or Rhaponticum carthamoides.
Ron Kramer was *****ing the other week that Thermolife "Innovated" ecdysterones, and that all the other companies who followed had failed because they are not Thermolife and all the ecdysterone research was based on ecdysterone (the exact same compound, mind you) found in Maral root, and they were using Cyatonis Vaga.It's Cyanotis vaga extracted to 94 % ecdysterone.
Still not sure I understand the angle on the "better" version, though.
Its the shizz, but dose the Fenotest at 6caps/day. The Anagen should have dosing recommendations on the bottle.How is the Anagen/FenoTest stack? Got each for $10 from Scivation.
There are NO EFFECTS of ecty...let alone side effects, trust tried and trueAre there any side effects to of ecdysterone? I've heard it to be safe for anyone old enough to lift. Is this true?
There are NO EFFECTS of ecty...let alone side effects, trust tried and true
any chemical derivation of sterane is a steroid. A sterol is a steroid. Ecdy is a steroid. It is not an androgen.Ecdysterone or is plant sterol. Sterol not steroid. Plant sterols are natural evolutionary substances manufactured within plants that provide nutrients primarily to insects and some small animals.
To date there is no valid research indicating that 20 Beta-Hydroxyecdysterone (Ecdysterone) provides any legitimate anabolic (muscle building) effect in humans. Absolutely no published research. What little research there is on this compound is devoted to insects and rats.
Ecdy also has increases the rate of Erythropoiesis (production of red blood cells), lowers cholesterol, and stimulates the release of insulin.Hmm this seems a bit extreme to me. Arguing there is zero anabolic benefits, or something of that sort is reasonable but to say NO EFFECTS....I dunno about that one man.
There's been studies in humans proving it to help protein synthesis, nitrogen retention, recovery, etc.
Yep, was just mentioning a few things. You seem to be much more knowledgeable on the subject matter, but I thought I'd try and throw my 2 cents in as I did give E-Bol a run a while back, and while it didn't help with mass, I most definitely noitced a bit of leaning out as my strength increased.Ecdy also has increases the rate of Erythropoiesis (production of red blood cells), lowers cholesterol, and stimulates the release of insulin.
This is probably the 10th time I've said this, but ecdy is not a mass builder. It is an ergogenic aid that encompasses many important elements to strength, endurance, body comp, etc.Yep, was just mentioning a few things. You seem to be much more knowledgeable on the subject matter, but I thought I'd try and throw my 2 cents in as I did give E-Bol a run a while back, and while it didn't help with mass, I most definitely noitced a bit of leaning out as my strength increased.
I agree with the majority that the hype was a bit strong, but I think with the right benefits in mind, the proper dosing/extract, ecdy can be beneficial in its own ways.
and I was agreeing with youThis is probably the 10th time I've said this, but ecdy is not a mass builder. It is an ergogenic aid that encompasses many important elements to strength, endurance, body comp, etc.
It wasn't aimed at you. It was more of a general statement about the horrible misunderstanding about ecdy's effects.and I was agreeing with you
Yeah that's what I was trying to point out as well. With the right effects being expect of ecdy I bet there would be a lot more happy consumers out there.It wasn't aimed at you. It was more of a general statement about the horrible misunderstanding about ecdy's effects.
Yep, I love to use ecdy when I am prepping for a fight because of its positive effects on EPO, nitrogen retention, and leaning effects.Yeah that's what I was trying to point out as well. With the right effects being expect of ecdy I bet there would be a lot more happy consumers out there.
Lol @ the strong finish. "buy some aminos."its hyped up bs from supplement companies knowing that the ph's that are available now will be gone in a year or less. Therefore, they are filling the pipelines with this bs so that you buy this crap when nothing good is available. You get more from plain ole liver tabs than the ecdysterones their hyping as the the next big thing. Whatever, it didnt work 10 years ago, and it dont work NOw period. I hear gamma oryzanol and dibencozide are making comebacks too! Save your money and buy some Aminos