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    ALL the pieces have finally arrived.

    So here's putting a long story short. I used to be the fat kid until a few years ago I decided to get back in shape and dropped the weight. However, I've NEVER had a 6-pack (except maybe a 6-pack of rolls) due to the layer of fat I STILL have covering my abs. So, I decided to do a cut (even though I'm not by any means even close to what some people would call "big" in fact, I'm rather weak) followed by a lean bulk to try and keep that 6-pack (assuming I can achieve it).

    I started the X-Factor/DCP/Levi 3 weeks ago and have started to see some results in the mirror (I look a little leaner), and am now going to throw in the Xtend since it finally came in.

    My only question is, if I have a high BF % about how long do you think it would realistically take me to achieve my goal when my diet and training are in check? Just so I can set a good goal.

    Wish me luck

    Special thanks to jjohn for the X-factor!

    **Edit** I just realized this might be the wrong section for this. So if it is, can someone please move it? Sorry.

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    Approximately, what is your BF% now. I would also advise throwing in some form of cortisol control once you start to get lower your BF. Most people that are endos have high levels of VAT and cortisol.
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    I couldnt even begin to estimate...Never had a test done before, but if it helps, most of my BF is in the lower region of my stomach. I basicly have a 2-pack...But if I could guess based off of what I've seen other people at...Maybe around 15-17%? But once again, I'm not really sure...Could be less or could be more
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    Quote Originally Posted by eazy90 View Post
    I couldnt even begin to estimate...Never had a test done before, but if it helps, most of my BF is in the lower region of my stomach. I basicly have a 2-pack...But if I could guess based off of what I've seen other people at...Maybe around 15-17%? But once again, I'm not really sure...Could be less or could be more
    If you can see the top-2, then you are probably in the 11-13% range.
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    Alright then 11-13% how long would you say it should take me to get around 8-9%?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eazy90 View Post
    Alright then 11-13% how long would you say it should take me to get around 8-9%?
    Very hard to say. I can easily get to around 10%, but cracking the single-digits still eludes me. Persistence and determination will dictate your results, so stay positive and disciplined.
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    Given your past as a fatty (no worries, I was there too), I would recommend putting fish oil into your regimen.
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    Dsade, can you expound on that for me? I too was a fat little kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tighe View Post
    Dsade, can you expound on that for me? I too was a fat little kid.
    Fish oil stimulates ppar-alpha receptors for better fat loss. It also helps out with insulin, amongst many other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Fish oil stimulates ppar-alpha receptors for better fat loss. It also helps out with insulin, amongst many other things.
    Correct...and former fatties have massive problems here.
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    Thanks to both of you!
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    Once again, I envy somebody else.
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    great stack, up that cardio and get your diet in check and your set brutha
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    If I throw in the fish oil's wouldn't that mess with the X-Factor?
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    Thats literally a nice stack. Well proportioned and everything. Start a log to keep us updated with your results.
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    That is a lot of X's you have there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eazy90;
    If I throw in the fish oil's wouldn't that mess with the X-Factor?
    Correct. Fish oil suppresses arachidonic acid synthesis in the body. Also try to avoid sesame lignans while on X-Factor, or any arachidonic acid product. Why? When we consume fats, our body breaks them down such that special enzymes determine which inflammatory pathway they follow: either enhance or suppress inflammatory reactions. As it turns out, the lignans from sesame inhibit the expression of an enzyme known as delta-5 desaturase. This enzyme causes dietary fats to be converted into arachidonic acid, a precursor to the toxic inflammatory factors prostaglandin E2 and leukotriene B4. Furthermore, sesame lignans also multiply levels of useful DGLA (di-homogamma linolenic acid). DGLA is the precursor to prostaglandin E1 that, amongst others, suppresses inflammatory conditions (that arachidonic acid creates). Supplementation with GLA (gamma linolenic acid), for instance through borage oil, also increases levels of DGLA and prostaglandin E1. So avoid sesame lignans (and GLA) and fish oil, if you are on an arachidonic acid product.
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    So nay to the fish oil and yay to the cort blocker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eazy90;
    So nay to the fish oil and yay to the cort blocker?
    Strictly speaking, glucocorticoid antagonists/cortisol blockers are anti-inflammatory, and should also be avoided during arachidonic-acid supplmentation.
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    Alright so what do you think about implementing them after the X-Factor cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eazy90;
    Alright so what do you think about implementing them after the X-Factor cycle?
    Should be fine
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    Sounds like a plan.
  

  
 

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