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Old 01-02-2008, 12:06 AM   #1
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anything for lactic acid?

I've never had a good tolerance for lactic acid. Now I'm not in amazing shape, but I can run 1.5 miles in about 10 minutes, so it's not like i'm a fat **** who cant move.

Even as I train the same and do the same runs my tolerance never gets any better and I almost always puke from it on my runs.


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Rugger,

I am not sure I understand what your goal is.

Is it to run 1.5 miles faster?

If so we need a few details.

How many miles do you run a week, how many days per week, at what pace etc.


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Check out Beta-Alanine and Citrulline Malate.
 
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Rugger,

I am not sure I understand what your goal is.

Is it to run 1.5 miles faster?

If so we need a few details.

How many miles do you run a week, how many days per week, at what pace etc.


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My goal is just not to get nauseas when I do HIIT or go on my runs. Generally I'll only run 1.5 miles once a week at about a 10 minute pace, but I also push myself in the gym to where I can still feel the acid making me queezy.
 
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Whats your diet like pre-work out?
 
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Old 01-02-2008, 06:19 AM   #7
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My goal is just not to get nauseas when I do HIIT or go on my runs. Generally I'll only run 1.5 miles once a week at about a 10 minute pace, but I also push myself in the gym to where I can still feel the acid making me queezy.
What do you mean by this? Feel lactic acid? wha?
 
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He must be confusing stomach acid with lactic acid. lol
 
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I don't really understand his problem? How do you puke from sore muscles?
 
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Originally Posted by Rugger1
I've never had a good tolerance for lactic acid. Now I'm not in amazing shape, but I can run 1.5 miles in about 10 minutes, so it's not like i'm a fat **** who cant move.

Even as I train the same and do the same runs my tolerance never gets any better and I almost always puke from it on my runs.


Any ideas for me?
It comes from an inability to disperse accumulated LA from working muscles- conditioning helps (you can teach your body how to do this), as well as certain supps. I have the same problem when we do really rough workouts- 300's at 75% and higher, intervals, and some of our circuits just about lay me out.

The first day of fall conditioning this year we did 90s runs- basically, you are trying to run as far as possible in 90 seconds. It doesn't seem like much, but it fukcs you up pretty bad- you are trying to shoot for around the 600m mark. You see guys puking and just getting laid out on the track left and right after 5 sets- some guys get the LA burn so back that they lock up, and just sit there and cramp up and can't move- track can be brutal


Phosphate will help as well, and creatine has some lactic acid buffering qualities as well- and Coug's suggestion of Beta-Al and Cit. Malate is golden- they help me a TON on longer sprints- simple and complex carbs pre-workout, along with RPM and Drive seem to help the most.
 



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It comes from an inability to disperse accumulated LA from working muscles- conditioning helps (you can teach your body how to do this), as well as certain supps. I have the same problem when we do really rough workouts- 300's at 75% and higher, intervals, and some of our circuits just about lay me out.

The first day of fall conditioning this year we did 90s runs- basically, you are trying to run as far as possible in 90 seconds. It doesn't seem like much, but it fukcs you up pretty bad- you are trying to shoot for around the 600m mark. You see guys puking and just getting laid out on the track left and right after 5 sets- some guys get the LA burn so back that they lock up, and just sit there and cramp up and can't move- track can be brutal


Phosphate will help as well, and creatine has some lactic acid buffering qualities as well- and Coug's suggestion of Beta-Al and Cit. Malate is golden- they help me a TON on longer sprints- simple and complex carbs pre-workout, along with RPM and Drive seem to help the most.
Concur with the above recommendations: cit malate, Beta alanine, bcaas and some good quality carbs (even some fruit too like bananas) might help.
 
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Even as I train the same and do the same runs my tolerance never gets any better and I almost always puke from it on my runs.


Any ideas for me?
Yes, we need details. What's your workout regimen?
 
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I'd personally go with the following, its what I do for swim practice:

60 minutes before:
Shake with a scoop or so of whey + BCAAs (either bulk BCAAs, xtend, or purple wraath)
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5g Citrulline malate
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2g ALCAR

After doing this for about a week and half you're really gonna notice how little lactic acid build up there is. When I do a set for swim practice, such as 10x100s, the last 100 feels just about as good as the first one.
 
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I run three miles a day four times a week and I am fine but when I do my military PT test and I run my two miles I always chuck or feel like I might. I always push myself more when I am timed. I am going to try some of these suggestions and see if they help me too.
 
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I'd personally go with the following, its what I do for swim practice:

60 minutes before:
Shake with a scoop or so of whey + BCAAs (either bulk BCAAs, xtend, or purple wraath)
30 minutes before
5g Citrulline malate
2-3g beta alanine
2g ALCAR

After doing this for about a week and half you're really gonna notice how little lactic acid build up there is. When I do a set for swim practice, such as 10x100s, the last 100 feels just about as good as the first one.
You shoudl be unstoppable with that stack
 
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