11-OXO for night cortisol control?

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    11-OXO for night cortisol control?


    I have high nighttime cortisol only... makes for crappy sleep. I was wondering if 11-OXO is a good choice to kick it down without affecting morning or daytime levels. So, my question is... how quick does it act, and how long does it last?

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    You could probably save your money w/ something like BCAA or casien protien, maybe?
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    I think I have the same problem. 11-OXO worked great for me once I started taking the largest dose [4 caps] before bed. I can't predict how fast and how well it will work for you. Give it a shot, vary the dose, and see how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machinehead View Post
    I think I have the same problem. 11-OXO worked great for me once I started taking the largest dose [4 caps] before bed. I can't predict how fast and how well it will work for you. Give it a shot, vary the dose, and see how it works.
    Will do. Consider a saliva test for $140 to verify your cortisol rhythm. Google "canary club".
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanGuy View Post
    Will do. Consider a saliva test for $140 to verify your cortisol rhythm. Google "canary club".
    Perhaps you can identify with some of my observations on circadian rhythm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by machinehead View Post
    Perhaps you can identify with some of my observations on circadian rhythm?
    Great log, thanks! I'll reply to this thread after I try it tonight.


    I noticed something... post cycle required? I am already on TRT, so it probably won't matter.

    Also, I am not trying to lose weight, I am actually underweight... 145lb @ 5'9"
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    why not try a non hormonal/ph cort blocker like lean extreme or retain2. yes, they are probably a little milder but i think it would work well if you bump the dosage up a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heebs10 View Post
    why not try a non hormonal/ph cort blocker like lean extreme or retain2. yes, they are probably a little milder but i think it would work well if you bump the dosage up a little.
    Yeah, I might do that. As long as it's more powerful than Seriphos or Relora. They aren't cutting it.
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    i believe the cort blocker in retain2 is the most effective aside from something along the line of 11 oxo. perhaps double the dosage and i think it would work great.
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    I read that 11-Oxo doesnt mess with serum cortisol level.

    so you might want to try retain2 or Blaze from SAN
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    Retain 2 was great when i used it three times. I lost weight though in ab area. I have never heard of cortisol spiking at night most of the time its early afternooon, mid-day, postWO, other stress situations.
    Id say try Retain2 regular dose week 1, double it from there if need be.
    Why not just try a relaxant? GABA, SomnidrenGH, Phenibut, etc...
    Either way best of luck.
    PS-Cortisol is a very important hormone in the body, while you want to limit it, over supressing it can cause issues.

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    the 11-keto-testosterone and 11-hydroxy-testosterone metabolites of 11-oxo are going to be suppressive to your natural testosterone levels. So you're lowering anabolic potential by increasing anti-catabolic potential.

    I'd recommend taking a forskolin-based product before bed instead. Forskolin will not only lower the catabolic effect of cortisol, but increase testosterone levels as well.
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    good info sinner, im going to try this
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    Quote Originally Posted by heebs10 View Post
    why not try a non hormonal/ph cort blocker like lean extreme or retain2. yes, they are probably a little milder but i think it would work well if you bump the dosage up a little.
    Retain2 sounds about right.
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    I would opt for a much cheaper option such as gaba, relora, or even retain 2.
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    Gaba controls Cortisol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wontdie View Post
    Gaba controls Cortisol?

    My guess would be because of the relaxation properties and GH release.
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