Poll: Anabolic Pump, Yellow Gold, P-Slin, or Other?

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Anabolic Pump, Yellow Gold, or P-Slin?

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  1. Anabolic Pump, Yellow Gold, or P-Slin?


    Anabolic Pump. Yellow Gold. P-Slin. Which would you recommend for insulin synthesis/nutrient partitioning/fat synthesis?

    If you have used only one of them, would you recommend it, or would you rather try something else (Banaba Extract, for instance)?

    If you have used more than one of the products, which worked better for you?

    Thanks in advance for your feedback
    Last edited by strategicmove; 01-01-2008 at 09:01 AM.
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  2. Although I find P-Slin to be in a separate category, my vote goes down for it. I respond well to both Anabolic Pump and P-Slin, but the vascularity during the P-Slin workouts is unmistakable... really cool stuff! You feel it working throughout your workout, and recovery (with a high carb diet) comes quickly. Fat loss - can't say so much, as I really didn't pay much attention to bodyfat. Although I'd put money down that these are some of the best products out there for recomp, I used them for their performance enhancing capabilities. And with those, I was pretty pleased.

    The reason I see P-Slin differently is because I don't see myself taking it 3 times daily. The cost would be a bottle (~$30) a week... definitly a pre-workout/once a day supplement. AP and YG however last much longer, and you can fully reap their benefits by running them with each of your CHO meals. All the while not destroying the bank as well, which is definitly a plus.

    I used AP 2x daily and P-Slin 1x daily (if weight training, otherwise APx3) for good 60 days or so. I felt it was time to take a break, but I know these greatly helped my performance in the gym. But in the end, I have to say P-Slin is the more powerful product, ingredient wise AND experience wise (for myself). Never used YG, but AP (and even P-Slin) are very similiar just with added perks.. such as the Symmetry addition in AP. I'd say your good to go with any of them, but I'd shell out for the AP/P-Slin combo if you can.
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  3. I love anabolic Pump, but Pslin is absolutely sick. They have great synergy, but Pslin has to be my overall favorite supplement wise. Check out my log, the links in my sig.
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  4. I have only tried YG and AP. I responded much more to the YG. Everyone is different, to some YG and AP is amazing and to others they feel there is no benefit. I have noticed while some really don't see much from it some however just don't wait long enough to see results. I also think (no offense to to USP Labs) that the name "Anabolic PUMP" was a bad idea. Yes it gives ya a nice little pump but I think some people expect mind blowing pumps in the gym. And when they don't get this "it doesn't work". When it does work I find it takes a good month to see the change. And if you don't take a before and after pic to compare you may not even notice.
    When you are losing fat and gaining LBM using only the scale wont be of much help. Even if it helps put on a few extra pound of lean mass its hard to see it spread out over an entire body without having a before pic.

    I was supposed to do a P-Slin 10 day trial a few months ago but that never seemed to happen. Oh well, I would be too busy now to keep a proper log.

  5. I've been on Yellow Gold for almost 60 days now, been keeping a log and watching my progress carefully. It didn't keep off the fat, but that is more due to me eating higher than maintenance + requirement for lean mass, I guess I overestimated my daily req'ment. I voted other though, because the results I got weren't exactly what I wanted, but it's not the fault of yellow gold , because energy in was just too much greater than energy out. In the future I want to try Anabolic Pump to see how it compares, or perhaps I'll get some corosolic acid + YG and see how that rolls. Also PSlin looks pretty interesting, but I'm not sure if I need it and I'm on a student budget here so I try just a few things. Maybe if it comes out in bulk I'll give it a shot, although dosing it may be hard, who knows.

  6. Pslin baby. Even if you are someone who AP didn't work for, Pslin is still great, and I haven't had any bathroom issues with it.

  7. normally i would say yellow gold because of the price to quantity but right now i am going to say anabolic pump. i think its a little more effective then yg and because i think its $28 at NP right now. cash in on their huge sale.

  8. I can use P-slin on the anabolic diet, because I only have a 1 carb day a week. Hell I can use 3 pills on that day... oh wait that's today.
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    $28 at NP for a short 6 days.

    Once in a lifetime price!

    Styder and I thanking Anabolicminds members for allowing us to grow and keep offering great supplements to our community.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Highlanda01602;
    Although I find P-Slin to be in a separate category, my vote goes down for it. I respond well to both Anabolic Pump and P-Slin, but the vascularity during the P-Slin workouts is unmistakable... really cool stuff! You feel it working throughout your workout, and recovery (with a high carb diet) comes quickly. Fat loss - can't say so much, as I really didn't pay much attention to bodyfat. Although I'd put money down that these are some of the best products out there for recomp, I used them for their performance enhancing capabilities. And with those, I was pretty pleased.

    The reason I see P-Slin differently is because I don't see myself taking it 3 times daily. The cost would be a bottle (~$30) a week... definitly a pre-workout/once a day supplement. AP and YG however last much longer, and you can fully reap their benefits by running them with each of your CHO meals. All the while not destroying the bank as well, which is definitly a plus.

    I used AP 2x daily and P-Slin 1x daily (if weight training, otherwise APx3) for good 60 days or so. I felt it was time to take a break, but I know these greatly helped my performance in the gym. But in the end, I have to say P-Slin is the more powerful product, ingredient wise AND experience wise (for myself). Never used YG, but AP (and even P-Slin) are very similiar just with added perks.. such as the Symmetry addition in AP. I'd say your good to go with any of them, but I'd shell out for the AP/P-Slin combo if you can.
    Thanks for the detailed response.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by pmiller383;
    I love anabolic Pump, but Pslin is absolutely sick. They have great synergy, but Pslin has to be my overall favorite supplement wise. Check out my log, the links in my sig.
    Do you remember how long you used Anabolic Pump?
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Rivet;
    ...When it does work I find it takes a good month to see the change. And if you don't take a before and after pic to compare you may not even notice.
    When you are losing fat and gaining LBM using only the scale wont be of much help. Even if it helps put on a few extra pound of lean mass its hard to see it spread out over an entire body without having a before pic...
    I get you point. I just wanted to know if you took the product for body recomposition, or if this was a secondary objective. Something else: If the product works, why should the results not be visually noticeable (without "before"/"after" photos)?
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph;
    I've been on Yellow Gold for almost 60 days now, been keeping a log and watching my progress carefully. It didn't keep off the fat, but that is more due to me eating higher than maintenance + requirement for lean mass, I guess I overestimated my daily req'ment. I voted other though, because the results I got weren't exactly what I wanted, but it's not the fault of yellow gold , because energy in was just too much greater than energy out...
    Would you mind to share your dosing protocol? 3 x 500mg? 3 x 1000mg? Something else?
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    $28 at NP for a short 6 days.

    Once in a lifetime price!

    Styder and I thanking Anabolicminds members for allowing us to grow and keep offering great supplements to our community.
    Definitly a killer deal! Great chance for our buddies like Strategic to give it a try... definitly a unique supplement.

    I'm kind of wondering what results would be made if you made a stack consisting of NA-R-ALA, quercetin, and other supps that would really bring forth the results of CHO utilization. Although I played on and off (and still do) with NA-R-ALA, I never really grasped it for it's CHO benefits. Pretty much just for the anti-oxidant properties. Custom Capsule could really simplify an outstanding recomp stack, and could be made affordable with the savings you'll make if this deal at NP is taken!

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Dancebot 2000;
    Pslin baby. Even if you are someone who AP didn't work for, Pslin is still great, and I haven't had any bathroom issues with it.
    Considering that both Anabolic Pump and P-Slin contain a Tannis Complex (Extract engineered from Lagerstroemia
    speciosa), but P-Slin contains a Gymnemic Complex (Herbal engineered from Gymnema Sylvestre), one might be tempted to suggest that adding a good Gymnema Sylvestre Extract to Anabolic Pump would deliver at least the same results as P-Slin in all cases. I have not tried any of the products myself and would make my choice based on this thread. Yet, I would intuitively prefer a product of this type that I can take three times a day versus just once a day. This is probably a minority opinion, but it reflects my current thinking.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by heebs10 View Post
    normally i would say yellow gold because of the price to quantity but right now i am going to say anabolic pump. i think its a little more effective then yg and because i think its $28 at NP right now. cash in on their huge sale.
    The sale was a big motivator for this thread
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs;
    $28 at NP for a short 6 days.

    Once in a lifetime price!
    A user would probably need two bottles to get the most out of it!
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  18. I have used all three. Anabolic Pump worked, Yellow Gold worked a lot better. P-Slin so far hasn't really done a thing. Too bad Yellow Gold tastes like crap and I'm too lazy to cap it.

  19. yellow gold = anabolic DUMP!
    not the most pleasant, and sorry i know this comment is not so pleasant either but it is a side effect i thought was worth mentioning.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone;
    I have used all three. Anabolic Pump worked, Yellow Gold worked a lot better. P-Slin so far hasn't really done a thing. Too bad Yellow Gold tastes like crap and I'm too lazy to cap it.
    Did you take Yellow Gold "straight", or did you add Alpha Lipoic Acid or Gymnema Sylvestre?
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by heebs10;
    yellow gold = anabolic DUMP! not the most pleasant, and sorry i know this comment is not so pleasant either but it is a side effect i thought was worth mentioning.
    Anabolic DUMP? Mind explaining?
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  22. AP works well for me in allowing a higher overall carb intake than normal without added fat gain; gives my muscle bellies a nice full feeling all day long.

    P-Slin gives me added strength/endurance during workouts and also allows me to pound over 100g of carbs in a single sitting and still able to workout an hour later, lol. That would normally kill any chances of me working out for hours.

    Stacking the two, IMO is the way to go. A bottle of each will last a month.

    Edit: here is the link to the beta log of P-Slin FWIW: Beta Feedback--Thread - USPLabsDirect.com
    Recent log:http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/213350-lean-efx-refined.html

  23. Quote Originally Posted by bpmartyr;
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    Stacking the two, IMO is the way to go. A bottle of each will last a month...[/url]
    Thanks for the info. Stacking the two would imply the two products would be used up in 30 days. Why is this option superior to using any of the two standalone and increasing the daily doses?
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Thanks for the info. Stacking the two would imply the two products would be used up in 30 days. Why is this option superior to using any of the two standalone and increasing the daily doses?
    With the P-Slin being used at pre workout only, dosing the AP at the other carb meals allows the nutrient partitioning a constant.

    You can increase the pre workout AP dose but I did not feel it gave the same results as a single P-Slin. I wouldn't want to take P-Slin with lower carbs as it makes me feel like crap doing so (lethargic, light headed). YMMV
    Recent log:http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/213350-lean-efx-refined.html

  25. The choice depends specifically on your goals, and how you wish to tailor your metabolism. Though the products work through similar pathways, the GS content in P-Slin leads to a mediation of separate parts of them. Due to this divergence, P-Slin most likely will not produce quite the same cumulative body composition changes, however, more endurance and strength, and vice versa with AP-P-Slin.

    The differences between the products are twofold; firstly, GS (whole GS extracts are useless, btw, it's a specific leaf extract) has been shown in clinical trials to raise serum levels of Insulin in both IDDM and NIDDM in rat models. It is hypothesized this comes as a result of regeneration of both the islets and beta cells, often returning pancreatic secretion to normal levels. Obviously, this creates a convergence of glucose to myocytes, but Insulin is not selective, hence the second difference - the direct lipogenesis effect of AP/YG; the constituent of YG, which is included in AP, modulates PPAR Gamma 2 to prevent the binding of blood lipids by accumulated adipocytes.

    As well, at least in the clinical trials I have seen, serum levels of Insulin were lowered by the constituent in YG as a response to supraphysiological levels of GLUT4. As I have noted, this might then create a 'fasting' response in adipocytes to further decrease PPAR Gamma 2 (it is lowered in response to fasting).

    So, it depends on your goals, if you are only planning on purchasing one product.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Thanks for the info. Stacking the two would imply the two products would be used up in 30 days. Why is this option superior to using any of the two standalone and increasing the daily doses?
    See my above answer. This issue is more qualitative as opposed to quantitative. They work through slightly different pathways, therefore producing qualitatively different results.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Anabolic DUMP? Mind explaining?
    dump = removal of bodily waste, often diarrhea form.

    ps: it is consumed yellow and it comes out yellow, too.
    sorry for the unpleasant posts
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Considering that both Anabolic Pump and P-Slin contain a Tannis Complex (Extract engineered from Lagerstroemia
    speciosa), but P-Slin contains a Gymnemic Complex (Herbal engineered from Gymnema Sylvestre), one might be tempted to suggest that adding a good Gymnema Sylvestre Extract to Anabolic Pump would deliver at least the same results as P-Slin in all cases. I have not tried any of the products myself and would make my choice based on this thread. Yet, I would intuitively prefer a product of this type that I can take three times a day versus just once a day. This is probably a minority opinion, but it reflects my current thinking.
    Pslin has about 5 times the amount of Tannins complex as compared to AP. If we added that amount to AP, The supplement would fail because the majority would fall into letharic hypo like state and deem it useless or "it makes me feel weak."
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    Quote Originally Posted by heebs10 View Post
    yellow gold = anabolic DUMP!
    not the most pleasant, and sorry i know this comment is not so pleasant either but it is a side effect i thought was worth mentioning.
    AP stimulates Peristalsis which will cause a removal of waste.

    The solution is to start with 1 cap twice a day dosed 6-8 hours a part and increase doseage after 7 days to 3 caps.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by heebs10;
    dump = removal of bodily waste, often diarrhea form.

    ps: it is consumed yellow and it comes out yellow, too.
    sorry for the unpleasant posts
    Thanks, got it! Rather graphic picture
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