[epathlete160]

first some stats:
Age:19
Weight:185lbs
hiit (lol): 5'11"
current supps: RPM+Drive+Neovar

now for a couple of questions.
My schedule as far as training goes a little something like this
Wake (2 Drive, 2 RPM)
Fasted morning cardio (45 mins [25 tred+20 elip])
Come home and Immediately take Neovar, and start cooking.
Question 1: My ritual breakfast included
-1/2 grapefruit
-2/3 cup rolled oats
-15 grams of whey (in the oats... mmm)
-3 eggs (1 yolk 3 whites)
Now that I am on the Neovar should i ditch the grapefruit? I was eating the grapefruit for a sugar source, but since The neovar increases insulin sensitivity, should i go ahead and just add more oats and stop the grapefruit?

Now i go about my day.
-(1:30pm) snack (scoop whey in milk, optional banana)
-(4:00pm) meal ( 200 grams sweet potato, 3.5 oz chicken)
-(5:00pm) supps (2 drive + 2 rpm)

Question 2: Lifting is at 6pm should i take my neovar with my preworkout snack? if so, any suggestions?
-or-
Do i save the neovar for post workout?

Question 3: If neoVar comes post workout, should the shake contain any simple carbs? My ritual pre neovar was to use the simple carbs and again to get the insulin spike.

the rest of my day is pretty simple

-(8:30pm) - Meal (Veggies galore with a lean meat maybe fish)
-(Pre bed) - snack (Whey casein mix)



There are allot of questions and if i missed anything let me know.
I'd appreciate any help, thanks allot.

[strategicmove]

Originally Posted by epathlete160;

first some stats:
Age:19
Weight:185lbs
hiit (lol): 5'11"
current supps: RPM+Drive+Neovar

now for a couple of questions.
My schedule as far as training goes a little something like this
Wake (2 Drive, 2 RPM)
Fasted morning cardio (45 mins [25 tred+20 elip])
Come home and Immediately take Neovar, and start cooking.
Question 1: My ritual breakfast included
-1/2 grapefruit
-2/3 cup rolled oats
-15 grams of whey (in the oats... mmm)
-3 eggs (1 yolk 3 whites)
Now that I am on the Neovar should i ditch the grapefruit? I was eating the grapefruit for a sugar source, but since The neovar increases insulin sensitivity, should i go ahead and just add more oats and stop the grapefruit?

Take your NeoVar with at least 50gr of quality carbohydrates. For your body weight, you should take four capsules per serving. I do not see why you should drop your grapefruit.

Originally Posted by epathlete160;

Now i go about my day.
-(1:30pm) snack (scoop whey in milk, optional banana)
-(4:00pm) meal ( 200 grams sweet potato, 3.5 oz chicken)
-(5:00pm) supps (2 drive + 2 rpm)

Question 2: Lifting is at 6pm should i take my neovar with my preworkout snack? if so, any suggestions?
-or-
Do i save the neovar for post workout?

NeoVar is recommended post-workout with at least 50gr of good carbohydrates. For your body weight, you need four capsules.

Some people prefer to take Drive and RPM about an hour pre-workout on an empty stomach.

Originally Posted by epathlete160;

Question 3: If neoVar comes post workout, should the shake contain any simple carbs? My ritual pre neovar was to use the simple carbs and again to get the insulin spike.

NeoVar is post-workout with carbohydrates.

Hope this helps!

[Lanbane]

From what I can tell from the info you have provided, I agree with Strategic on his advice above, fully.

If in a bind or it works better in your schedule, your 2nd dose of Neovar could be taken sometime in the afternoon, pre-food..... but as stated it's best to still be able to have some empty stomach time for the Drive and RPM.

From reports I have seen about Neovar..... it seems about half like it before a workout, half like it after. You can't go wrong either way.

[epathlete160]

with a meal at 4:00pm is waiting until 5:00pm to take rpm + drive generally sufficient time to call it an "empty stomach"?

also, once rpm + drive are taken would waiting about 45 then having a small snack preworkout hinder any effects?

Thank you for all the replies, but when you say "quality carbs" are you referring to the complexity v. simplicity or natural v. processed

[Lanbane]

Originally Posted by epathlete160

with a meal at 4:00pm is waiting until 5:00pm to take rpm + drive generally sufficient time to call it an "empty stomach"? This would be fine.
also, once rpm + drive are taken would waiting about 45 then having a small snack preworkout hinder any effects?
This would work fine as well.
Thank you for all the replies, but when you say "quality carbs" are you referring to the complexity v. simplicity or natural v. processed. I think he is referring a bit to both complexity and naturalness. (is that a word?) A combination such as your oats and grapefruit would be best IMO.

[epathlete160]

You guys were nothing but great help. Thanks once again.

[strategicmove]

Originally Posted by Lanbane;

Thanks, Lanbane, for clearing that up. Was tied up elsewhere

[nunes]

Originally Posted by strategicmove

Thanks, Lanbane, for clearing that up. Was tied up elsewhere

does your company have any studies concerning the conversion rate of neovar to creatinine in the stomach?
I would like to know the differences to kre-alkalyn.

[strategicmove]

Originally Posted by nunes;

does your company have any studies concerning the conversion rate of neovar to creatinine in the stomach?
I would like to know the differences to kre-alkalyn.

I am not sure, but I can check. Nevertheless, it is important to draw a distinction between the conversion rate of a pure creatine ethyl ester (the creatine form used in NeoVar) and the conversion rate of creatine ethyl ester combined with co-factors such as rhodiola and banaba extract (as in a product like NeoVar recommended to be taken post-workout with carbohydrates). The comparison may not be one-to-one.

[nunes]

Originally Posted by strategicmove

I am not sure, but I can check. .

I would really appreciate because the companies that sell kre alkalyn are making a lot of claims saying that CEE has a very high conversion to creatinine and that this substance is very toxic to the kidneys in a long time use.

[strategicmove]

Originally Posted by nunes;

I would really appreciate because the companies that sell kre alkalyn are making a lot of claims saying that CEE has a very high conversion to creatinine and that this substance is very toxic to the kidneys in a long time use.

Sometimes it is difficult to separate facts from questionable marketing strategies when some of such companies make such pronouncements. I used four straight bottles of NeoVar without seeing even the slightest hint of kidney dysfunction, not to mention damage. Besides, even though NeoVar is creatine-ethyl-ester based, the particular blend of co-factors employed in the product makes the product's bioavailability and effectiveness completely different from creatine-ethyl-ester-only products.

[Lanbane]

Sidenote of interest: Somewhere on a not too friendly forum elsewhere, in a land far far away...... there is a VERY interesting thread dissecting Kre-Alkalyn. It would be worth a read if you can find it

[Distilled Water]

Originally Posted by Lanbane

From reports I have seen about Neovar..... it seems about half like it before a workout, half like it after. You can't go wrong either way.

Or this guy.......who LOVES it both pre and post.

Summer TKD has NeoVar writen all over it.

[Lanbane]

Distilled Water <----- My Dawg