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Exclamation New Products from Primordial Performance!

Hello AM members,

I wanted to give you guys a quick sneak peak for what we have planned for the 1st of the year…

Dermacrine Sustain, now Sustain Alpha: New ingredients working in synergy to make the existing formula more effective. This new Sustain Alpha uses aromatic oils to elicit a massive surge of L/H from the pituitary to stimulate testosterone production from the testes. These oils actually dissolve and enter your brain when you smell them, triggering this boost of testosterone. Primordial Performance also took things one step further by making another addition with the ingredient Diallyl Disulfide. This unique little molecule further catalyzes the L/H pulse and testosterone increase. The combo is nothing short of remarkable, and the name for the new revised product fits accordingly – Sustain Alpha.


Phyto Testosterone: The name says it all, this plant based substance effects our body in every way like the real anabolic monster -- Testosterone. You have probably heard of all the “Phyto-Estrogens” that pollute our food and water, and have negative estrogen-like effects on our bodies, well now Phyto-Testosterone is here to sway the balance. We deliver this cutting edge product with our oral Phospholipid Delivery Matrix, which increases bioavailability and gets more Phyto-Test into your system.



Toco-8: This is a Tocotrienol complex extracted from palm fruits. It will be a powder that can be mixed into your favorite drink or shake. Recently, it has been granted a US patent for stopping hair loss and promoting hair regrowth. It also has powerful effects in lower bad cholesterol, and increasing Testosterone production by increasing testicular sensitivity to L/H and F/S/H.



Primordial Essentials Product Line: Throughout 2008 we will be introducing our new Primordial Essentials Product Line. These will be economically priced essential products that are designed to be taken long term for enhanced health and fitness. The first, Toco-8, will be launched in early 2008, additional products will be regularly added to this section.

New Pricing Structure: Through Referring members, making purchases, and gaining recognition on our Forum you will earn Primordial Rankings. With each tier you will get better discounts. On top of this, when you make referrals you will earn product credit to be used on our site.

Come check out the new products and new website upgrades in the beginning of 08!

Stay tuned…

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Haven't tried any of your products yet, but I am very fond of transdermal delivery in general, so the expanding product line is looking good.
 
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Phyto Testosterone: The name says it all, this plant based substance effects our body in every way like the real anabolic monster -- Testosterone. You have probably heard of all the “Phyto-Estrogens” that pollute our food and water, and have negative estrogen-like effects on our bodies, well now Phyto-Testosterone is here to sway the balance. We deliver this cutting edge product with our oral Phospholipid Delivery Matrix, which increases bioavailability and gets more Phyto-Test into your system.
I must say that you have some really nice looking packaging for your products. I really dig the silver bottles.

So what's the deal with this "phyto testosterone"? Are we talking a naturally occuring androgen, or something along the lines of ecdysterone?
 
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Toco-8? I'm in. Need testers? Pleasepleasepleaseplease?
 
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Simply awesome Eric.

Primordial's new products products are stylish and inovative as always.

Even though I have a whole stack of sustain, I figure I'll be putting another order in very soon, assuming all the ingredients are ok for AU import.
 
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As a current user of Dermacrine, I'm very excited to see this lineup. I'm absolutely sure you will elaborate on the products when it's time... definitly going to be checking in daily to hear about ALL of them! It almost seems like they would be an amazing stack, each complementing a different field
 
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Definitely hoping the alpha is available in about 3 weeks when I need to order some for PCT. The Phyto Testosterone sounds interesting too.

Any thought as to a transdermal GH enhancer? Universal kits had one, but they are now defunct and I know a number of their customers are interested in a replacement product.
 



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Old 12-28-2007, 01:09 PM   #12
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I must say that you have some really nice looking packaging for your products. I really dig the silver bottles.

So what's the deal with this "phyto testosterone"? Are we talking a naturally occuring androgen, or something along the lines of ecdysterone?
It will be something along the lines of Testofen and methoxyisoflavone delivered in a very cool serum like formula that tastes oddly close to maple syrup. (without any flavoring added)

The action of Testofen (despite what most think) is that is acts directly on the AR receptor, and as far as we can tell is every bit as potent as testosterone for inducing muscle growth. The study done by Gencor on mice showed that it made the levitor ani and sexual organs grow just as much as the testosterone group, and considerably more than the control group. (all groups were castrated)

The Methoxyisoflavone is not directly acting on the AR, but we believe there is some receptor ligand cross talk. For instance, if high estrogen levels are present this flavone will potentate the effects, but if no estrogen is present that the flavone has no estrogenic activity… this same action can explain its anabolic effects.

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about sustain alpha:
does it need to be cycled like dermacrine, and can it be taken as part of a post cycle therapy like derm. sustain?

assuming it is applied like the others, it doesnt seem like there is any control on how much of the aromatic oils you breath in...is it just a fraction of the same stuff being absorbed transdermally?

edit: can this phyto test be stacked with pancakes?
 
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about sustain alpha:
does it need to be cycled like dermacrine, and can it be taken as part of a post cycle therapy like derm. sustain?

assuming it is applied like the others, it doesnt seem like there is any control on how much of the aromatic oils you breath in...is it just a fraction of the same stuff being absorbed transdermally?

edit: can this phyto test be stacked with pancakes?


The Sustain Alpha is the replacement for the Derma Sustain, so yes it can be used long-term and does not need to be cycled. (Although it may be a good idea if you want to 'save' it for times you need it most)

The aromatic oils are new to the formula. The dose is controlled proportionate to the pump dose you use. They evaporate fairly quickly and absorb into the skin quickly so within 10 mins after application you should no longer smell the oils.

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