Need to INCREASE appetite without sides
- 12-22-2007, 04:51 PM
Need to INCREASE appetite without sides
I am trying to gain some weight (muscle mass of course)! I am male 5'9" / 140lbs. What can I take to increase appetite without anxiety/insomnia sides?
I drink a serious mass shake every morning after breakfast but then I am not hungry for lunch. I force lunch down, but its no fun.
- 12-22-2007, 04:57 PM
12-22-2007, 05:16 PM
12-22-2007, 06:22 PM
12-22-2007, 06:34 PM
12-22-2007, 06:41 PM
take benadryl, or some other strong anti histamine.
black hole works for some people, doesnt work for others.
ketotifen works really well. if you know where to get it, i suggest you do.
only thing about these is that you gotta take it at night or else youll end up being REALLY drowsy. But it leads to great sleep
12-22-2007, 08:08 PM
get on a L here and there.
black hole if you dont smoke more than 5 times a month
gradually eat more and more, try eating an apple or a sandwich inbetween meals where you usually dont. its taken me about 3 months but i definately can eat WAAYYYYY more than i could before and im always hungry it seems.
good luck bro!
12-22-2007, 09:09 PM
12-23-2007, 12:16 AM
some of these products like black hole or grub on may be of assistance, but best bet is too slowly add calories, bump it up small, like 100 calories/day for a few weeks.
Also drinking juices, using butter, eating peanut butter/nuts&seeds, these small things all do wonders for adding calories.
12-23-2007, 01:27 AM
ask youur doctor MEGACE Oral Suspension.
i asked my doctor and he was fine with it so if you can get it see yourself really climbing the number up. good luck.
12-23-2007, 01:35 AM
12-23-2007, 12:42 PM
12-23-2007, 03:53 PM
I think you might be overestimating the amount of calories you really need to gain weight. Your BMR with not doing anything at all is 1680. If you throw in normal activity it's a little over 2000. If you eat 2500 calories a day you should definitely see a change when you step on the scale each week.
Do you still think you need to increase your appetite to get in that many calories ?
12-24-2007, 03:02 PM
All I can say is... I work out hard (cardio + weights), supplement, eat as much as I can, and still struggle to keep above 140 lbs.
I don't sleep well, and have some hormonal issues which I am working on. Maybe that will increase the appetite naturally when balanced.
12-24-2007, 03:42 PM
X2 for squats. Make em heavy and go to parallel. Or do one grueling set of 20. I can eat a horse the next day after that.
If you want to gain muscle you're gonna really need to get your sleep issues straightened out. You may possibly be overtrained already and which could be causing your sleep issues in the first place. I say take a week off of weights and get lots of rest, stock your shelves and fridge with food then hit it hard.
For sleep supps ZMA to have a good undisturbed sleep, and triptophan to help fall asleep in the first place.
12-24-2007, 10:26 PM
Hey Big Skinny
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12-24-2007, 10:36 PM
12-25-2007, 10:57 PM
01-02-2008, 11:59 PM
I'm about 145, 5'11, and I could sit on my ass but still require more than 3,000 calories to maintain my weight.
What would your advice be for me? To eat the chart BMR? I'd drop to 135. Actually less, considering that the "official" BMR for someone of my height and weight can't be more than 1,600 calories a day.
Back in the real world, I need 24 kcal/lb. to maintain. Try bulking with THAT. Ain't happening without anabolic assistance.
To the OP: You need to identify which foods you are capable of eating in large quantities on a consistent basis. Do some individual experimentation. For me, it's whole milk shakes, hot dogs, scrambled eggs, chicken sausages, rice, soup, and various other things. I've turned massive eating into an art form, yet it's still far from "easy".
By the way, it has to be said:
The most effective appetite boosters of any kind are anabolics.
I discovered this two months ago when I ran a mild cycle of H-drol. I think I could attribute all of my gains to the increase in appetite alone. I'm off it now, yet I've still got the size and I'
ve become more accustomed to eating large amounts (still not easy, though - some days I don't feel like eating ****).
If you run h-drol at 25 mg/day you will experience ZERO sides and not require any form of post cycle therapy, yet you will still probably get a noticeable appetite boost. It's worth it for that alone. To actually be able and willing to eat enough calories to gain weight is an AWESOME feeling. Not something that is often experienced by people with abnormally high maintenance requirements.
I would not rely on otc or prescription drugs like anti-histamines to stimulate your appetite (or anything else, for that matter).
In making you drowsy, they impair your own body's ability to fall asleep. They have Anticholinergic properties:
Anticholinergic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You will end up depleting your neurotransmitters even further and making your condition worse because that's how these drugs work.
Don't do it - I'd recommend good sleep supplements and a mild anabolic for appetite.
You can't go wrong with halodrol at 25 mg/day. Don't even need PCT at that dosage.
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