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Is 6-OXO better than DIM (diindoylmethane) for estrogen control... for men? I read that DIM wasn't so good for men's hormones.
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Now, I realize this is from the ergo-pharm / 6-OXO web site, but does it have any validity?where did you read this?
As far as between the two stand alone...yes 6-OXO is better at estrogen control because its a suicide inhibitor of estrogen. Now as far as DIM not being good for men's hormones...thats BS! DIM is not an AI, but it helps with estrogen metabolism. DIM helps keep estrogen under control by converting bad estrogens into good estrogens...which is a good thing because it promotes a hormonal balance in your system and of course that means a better libido and so on. Do some research on DIM...you'll definitely read about it being quite beneficial.Is 6-OXO better than DIM (diindoylmethane) for estrogen control... for men? I read that DIM wasn't so good for men's hormones.
Thanks.
6-oxo is far far better , there is no comparison.This is the 1st Ive seen of this but its very interesting. Ive stayed away from 6oxo because of the shutdown potential thus far.
Ditto. I've never heard of 6-oxo being suppressive. ErgoPharm states that there is potential suppression at higher doses and/or longer runs of 11-oxo. But not 6-oxo.6-oxo is far far better , there is no comparison.
Where do you heard that 6-oxo is suppressive?
Anything that completely blunts estrogen can be suppressive if you dose it too high. However, as long as you run it for no longer than 6-8 weeks and at the recommended dose, or just a tad higher, but not too much higher, than suppression is not an issue. 6-OXO is pretty safe, the worst thing to worry about is possible lethargy, or a little drop in libido, beyond that though its safe and effective.Ditto. I've never heard of 6-oxo being suppressive. ErgoPharm states that there is potential suppression at higher doses and/or longer runs of 11-oxo. But not 6-oxo.
Well, I'd never recommend that someone run it for 6-8 weeks at a high dose. I've done short runs of 3-4 weeks that ramp up to a high dose with no problems. Or in the case of PCT, I would use it for 4-5 weeks, starting at a higher than recommended dose and tapering. No lethargy or libido issues for me either. Granted everyone is different, but I've just never had much in the way of sides with 6-oxo, so I have a hard time seeing it as suppressive if it's used intelligently.Anything that completely blunts estrogen can be suppressive if you dose it too high. However, as long as you run it for no longer than 6-8 weeks and at the recommended dose, or just a tad higher, but not too much higher, than suppression is not an issue. 6-OXO is pretty safe, the worst thing to worry about is possible lethargy, or a little drop in libido, beyond that though its safe and effective.
Good way of putting it bud. When using 6-OXO, it is much more effective to do short runs with it. You are also right that 6-OXO would not be suppressive if its used intelligently. However, you have to remember that some guys have a tendency to think they are a hard ass and they dose the stuff too high. I also agree that running anything in the realm of 6-OXO (something that tampers with your hormones) at a high dose could be quite detrimental to your health because the stuff is potent.Well, I'd never recommend that someone run it for 6-8 weeks at a high dose. I've done short runs of 3-4 weeks that ramp up to a high dose with no problems. Or in the case of post cycle therapy, I would use it for 4-5 weeks, starting at a higher than recommended dose and tapering. No lethargy or libido issues for me either. Granted everyone is different, but I've just never had much in the way of sides with 6-oxo, so I have a hard time seeing it as suppressive if it's used intelligently.
It's probably dangerous to use just about anything at a very high dose for a long period of time.
Yep, I agree. I plan on dosing it pretty high to start a PCT after hdrol, but I'll ramp down pretty quickly and be done in 4 weeks. Running any AI for 6-8 weeks seems a little risky to me. I always like to give my body a big 'ol break after taking this stuff too. I haven't used 6oxo since about August.Good way of putting it bud. When using 6-OXO, it is much more effective to do short runs with it. You are also right that 6-OXO would not be suppressive if its used intelligently. However, you have to remember that some guys have a tendency to think they are a hard ass and they dose the stuff too high. I also agree that running anything in the realm of 6-OXO (something that tampers with your hormones) at a high dose could be quite detrimental to your health because the stuff is potent.
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