- 12-05-2007, 05:24 PM
Guys bsn is being sued for false supplement facts.
If this is true how do they won so many awards in bb.com?????
- 12-05-2007, 05:30 PM
The awards come from members voting. The products get nominated based on sales. Endless cycle of idiocy.
There's already a thread or 2 on this topic, BTW.Applied Nutriceuticals Representative
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Have you heard about N.O. Uptake? ;-)
- 12-05-2007, 05:32 PM
12-05-2007, 05:39 PM
12-05-2007, 05:41 PM
I worked part time for GNC a while back. My RSD was tight with an MHP rep...MHP took some of BSN's products like NO xplode and Cellmass, tested them and basically found nothing but sugar and caffeine
12-05-2007, 05:43 PM
12-05-2007, 05:46 PM
This could be the end of bsn.
I hope this serve as an example to all the other brands.
12-05-2007, 05:50 PM
I've bought a few tubs of NO-Xplode here and there, and actually thought of stocking up on that along with some Syntha-6 and Cell Mass at some point. I'm not so sure after this.
I hope this is a lesson learned to BSN. They owe all of us who've given them business.
This could only make you wonder about some of the other supplement brands out there. Not to mention any names. *Ahem* Muscle-Tech.
12-05-2007, 05:54 PM
BSN should start refunding people their money - but as I type this, it is still being sold. Retailers need to get this information and pull the products in question. If they dont, they're just as responsible for pushing bunk products at an outrages price.
12-05-2007, 05:55 PM
yea it does make it hard. Gotta shop well and know the company well enough to trust them. somehow i think muscletech is mostly honest with their ingredients. they just have a very solid marketing approach and charge 10,0000000 time what it should cost because their supplement bottles look like trophies.
12-05-2007, 06:06 PM
I might take a little walk around the mall and stop by GNC. I'll start random discussion with somebody working there and find out if they've heard about this yet. If not, then I'll just bring them up to date.
12-05-2007, 06:09 PM
12-05-2007, 06:12 PM
no-xplode is the proof that the placebo effect does exist...
12-05-2007, 06:14 PM
12-05-2007, 06:55 PM
*sigh*..."can I just have my protein?"
12-05-2007, 07:01 PM
12-05-2007, 07:01 PM
There should be an independant third party who test supplements and reports what they find. Sort of a "consumer reports" for supps.
It's hard to concentrate when I can hear your thoughts.
12-05-2007, 07:02 PM
12-05-2007, 07:15 PM
i'm also an ex-GNC employee and concur with what pudz is sayin here. from personal experience trying dozens of fancy smancy creatine and NO products, i've found the vast majority generally fail to accomplish what they claim to do. that is to say, they're all exorbitantly overpriced crap. any smart employee at GNC will only try to play off the "positive" sides of each product, because their one main objective is to sell you what GNC is marketing. the more they sell, the more $$$ they make in commissions. so if you were a GNC employee tryin to make the most from your job, why would you wanna sacrifice your hard-earned commissions and advise customers not to buy from these bunk companies?
12-05-2007, 09:16 PM
I'd be welling to bet that a good 8 out of 10 consumers who buy these products first and foremost have no sense of diet whatsoever, and secondly don't even really train like they should to begin with. Otherwise placebo could be attributed to any gains if any made from these products.
12-05-2007, 09:40 PM
12-06-2007, 11:50 AM
I could never work at GNC. I'm sure you get store discounts, which are always nice, but I wouldn't be able to bullsh!t my customers and try convincing them to buy overpriced, some being worthless, products. Especially when I myself have been conned into trying such products, and ended up wasting my money and gaining nothing using the products in the gym.
12-06-2007, 12:19 PM
True i hate gnc for that reason.
damn bro you are a post-a-holic.in less than a month 400 posts!
12-06-2007, 12:44 PM
I've used a couple tubs, and it provides the best, cleanest energy I've experienced, and good pumps and endurance too.
I'm well-versed in the effects of NoDoz and Gatorade when taken pre-workout, and they feel nothing like No-Xplode.
Shove that placebo in your crack pipe and smoke it. You're the one experiencing a placebo effect: someone puts it out there that a large company's well known and over-hyped product sucks, and everyone jumps on the bashing bandwagon. That's placebo for ya!
12-06-2007, 01:00 PM
12-06-2007, 01:10 PM
Maybe, but it's true. I love all these 'I used it and liked/loved it, but apparently it was all a giant sugar rush!! **** them!' posts.
Remember other companies who dis No-Xplode have a lot to gain by doing so. I'll need way more details before I'll say BSN sucks. It's been a while since I used it; I think I'll give it another try soon.
12-06-2007, 01:11 PM
sorry bro but if no-xplode doesn't contain the ingredients that bsn say it does ,no-xplode and bsn do not deserve the money you put on their products.
Regarding the placebo I can assure you that the creatine effects don't exist if there is no creatine, maybe what you felt is the caffeine effect, drink some coffees and save your money.
12-06-2007, 01:17 PM
It may not contain the ingredients it says it does; it's my choice whether the effect I get is worth it to me.
It's been known for a very long time that a scoop of No-Xplode has >1gr creatine. It isn't marketed as a creatine product, really; it's called NO, or nitric oxide, for a reason, not CRE-explode. See where I'm going?
It's not just caffeine and sugar. I own a coffee roasting business, and have my choice of the finest coffees in the world. Coffee doesn't do **** for me, I drink 6 espressos in the morning on my days off just to bring myself to baseline. I've used No-Doz and gatorade pre-workout. These don't hold a candle to no-xplode. I know lots of people who agree.
What's in it? Couldn't tell you. I'd love to know. But it's not placebo, or simply caffeine.
12-06-2007, 01:51 PM
the big problem here is that if is true that bsn lies in the sup facts , bsn does not deserve the consumer respect .
I cant agree with a politic of false statements, if one product contains steroids and says it`s clean it will work for sure but probably some consumers didn`t knew what they were taking.
If a product says that contains creatine it MUST have creatine!
12-06-2007, 01:57 PM
I agree. I wonder if, when they switched to the new formula and red bottles, they didn't cut a corner or two? Could be.
12-06-2007, 04:04 PM
All of this BSN bashing is giving me a headache.
For people who hate BSN, some people are giving an awful lot of attention to the subject matter.
We all have the right to voice our opinions, though. Especially when we spend money and put our trust into a particular company, then come to find out, they've been screwing us all along.
I have a 1/2 tub of NO-Xplode left and I'm sure I'll end up using the rest of it. I've had great experience with it in the past. There are some other BSN products I'd like to try and I think I'll give them a shot, especially since I can get pretty much discount products on them. If they do nothing for me, then I'll can them and will stop giving money to BSN.
I'm still somewhat undecided on whether or not I truely do like BSN. I do like NO-Xplode, Syntha-6, and Cell Mass. However, I'm quite pissed off that BSN has exaggerated/lied/whathaveyou to us consumers.
Misleading your customers is the worst thing you could do.
12-06-2007, 04:05 PM
12-06-2007, 07:25 PM
why bash a company? i mean yea they are BS and they falsely advertise their ingredients...but im sure they dont care cuz they make mad money compared to other supplement companies. anyway i agree with MGny....too much bashing..
btw...syntha 6 tastes awesome.
12-06-2007, 09:04 PM
12-06-2007, 10:25 PM
12-06-2007, 11:25 PM
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