- 12-04-2007, 12:18 AM
- 12-04-2007, 12:31 AM
Dude, get some POWERFULL. And maybe some POSEIDON.
I'm staying out of SYNTRAX threads... later
- 12-04-2007, 12:46 AM
With the demise of Vigor, maybe DSade will come out with NOxidant-reBorn sometime.
12-04-2007, 06:01 AM
i dont know why everyone hates them. what did they do that gave them such bad internet rep.
12-04-2007, 07:18 AM
Syntrax sued a bunch of people on bb.com's forum. They were trying to sue people by their 'board name alias'.
Actually Patrick Arnold was also targeted as well.
I don't know what actually happened to that lawsuit they tried to conjure up. It was over 'company defamation' that they wanted to hit up all the board members with. I don't visit bb.com's board, but it was more than just an annoying thing, Syntrax was pretty serious about it and they listed everyone that they were targeting.
Ryan Deluca said in support of the members that they would 'drop' Syntrax's brand from their store.
.......apparently words don't translate into actions because all of Syntrax's products are still being sold.....
12-04-2007, 08:08 AM
I've also been interested in Radox. Guggulbolic, too.
12-04-2007, 12:18 PM
Nothing wrong with Syntrax. Crap gets blown out of proportion on these message boards. If you take what you read to heart, or lose sleep over what you read on a message board, well then I just feel sorry for you.
12-04-2007, 12:49 PM
1. i dont take it to heart.
2. i think that its good to know what companys are doing certain things and how they are treating their products/customers.
12-04-2007, 12:53 PM
12-04-2007, 12:54 PM
12-04-2007, 12:55 PM
12-04-2007, 12:58 PM
Well, look at the way SciVation/PrimaForce treats their customers compared to some of ther other companies out there.
The reality is that some companies are just stellar ones (like SciVation/PrimaForce, Diesel Nutrition) and others are shady P.O.S. (IDS, MT, BSN, Syntrax, etc).
12-04-2007, 01:00 PM
12-04-2007, 01:04 PM
12-04-2007, 01:06 PM
12-04-2007, 01:58 PM
What syntrax did is pretty sad imo. The long story short is that after garnering a pretty bad local opinion as bb.com via their reps and personnel that posted on the board, they filed legal action. Their rational was that they had been libeled by certain members that were reps for other supp companies. Claiming that as reps, they were actually agents. They demanded that bb.com divulge IP and other contact information regarding these members. BB.com fought back.
The case has been moved around a bit for legal reasons, but currently si03 and bb.com are going back and forth over whether any information should be released. si03 bc of the above mentioned issues, bb.com fighting on first amendment grounds and arguing that these are people's opinions and protected speech.
some of the people implicated by si03 have no rep affiliations, others only became reps after their alleged comments, others only stated facts in regard to syntrax's past.
as stated above, it is a travesty of consumer service. On the few occasions i have had issues with products or dosings from companies like MAN, NP, TP, BSL/XF, sciv/prima, it has always been a quick and friendly response and that goes a long way with me and I would hope would go a long way with others too.
While I cannot disagree with the fact that things are frequently blown out of proportion on these boards, and is the case to an extent with this issue, the facts alone, the fact that a case was ever filed for the reasons si03 stated in their complaint, are disgusting to me
12-04-2007, 02:16 PM
12-04-2007, 02:21 PM
I forget where the case was originally filed, I believe IL, the judge ordered expedited discovery to decide if he would permit court ordered release of bb.com's data. The case was adjourned to ID federal court and it has been a battle of the motions.
the most recent uproar was a filed response that included a letter from si03's attorney demanding the preservation of data on some 275 members (the original suit implicated roughly 25 members). Now, it is typical for a plaintiff to make a demand to preserve electronic data in these types of suits, but this of course caused a massive uproar because the 275 names were pretty much all regular posters on bb.com
12-04-2007, 02:26 PM
12-04-2007, 02:31 PM
what's funny about it is the pervasive attitude toward any of the si03 reps and any alleged past indiscretions prior to the law suits was "who cares, i like nectar" or somethign similar, but ever since the suits a lot more people are really ticked at them.
12-04-2007, 02:54 PM
12-04-2007, 02:56 PM
12-04-2007, 03:01 PM
12-05-2007, 02:48 AM
I definitely think that people should really think about what they type before they type it and slap in on the internet. People and companies should be held accountable for their actions. Anonymity behind a monitor is good but you should still think about what you say.
I do not personally care for the style of crybaby.com and like it has been said both deserve one another.
I also think that if people were attacking your livelihood that you would protect that as well rather than lay down and take a beating.
I am neither pro Syntrax or bb.com tbh.
12-05-2007, 03:31 AM
dude, neoborn, save it. Ive gone there just to see whats up with a few topics, very rarely i might add, and i see you posting up a storm over there. You love it.
12-05-2007, 08:24 AM
12-05-2007, 08:38 AM
12-05-2007, 10:21 AM
also syntrax is hated because of the damage their lipokinetix product did, it not only hurt some people but some actually died. syntrax was then sued by the people they hurt and lost but to avoid payment they declared bankruptcy and opened their company back up under S103. These are just a few of the reasons syntrax is hated so much
12-05-2007, 10:24 AM
well thats a good reason to be hated.
12-05-2007, 10:28 AM
12-05-2007, 10:32 AM
12-05-2007, 10:46 AM
This is sorta like Superdrol. It did not cause death, but there were reports of jaundice occuring from it.
It must take a lack of moral to release such harmful products to people.
12-05-2007, 10:51 AM
12-06-2007, 06:19 AM
12-06-2007, 07:02 AM
For anti oxidants & vitamins I've always gone with the trusted brand name NOW.
12-06-2007, 07:25 AM
12-06-2007, 08:21 AM
The main ingredient in the Lipokinetix to blame was 'ursnic acid'.
Google it up. They don't have any hard evidence, but believe this to be the active ingredient that causes rapid death of liver cells.
12-06-2007, 10:50 AM
Take the "r" out of that word before you search it. (usnic acid or sodium usniate).
12-09-2007, 05:28 PM
12-09-2007, 05:38 PM
Check this out.
Syntrax is currently suing a bb.com poster who suffered permanent liver damage from using Lipokinetix.
Syntrax ducked the court-awarded settlement that he and many others were entitled to by declaring bankruptcy and reorganizing.
Now.....a couple years later, under basically the same ownership, they are suing the SAME GUY that their product injured seriously, the SAME GUY that they owe a court settlement too.
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