Dermacrine Sustain + Formestane stack

VaughnTrue · 12-03-2007, 07:50 AM

How would everyone here dose this for a 200lbs guy?

For the DS I was figuring I would follow the recommended dosage of 5 pumps/day for 6 weeks(2 bottles).

I planned on using the Formestane @ 50mg 2 times/day for a total of 100mg.

Would it be possible to put my Formestane into my bottle of DS? Get it so I can get 50mg out of 2.5-3pumps(possibly use 6 pumps/day)? That would be cool so I'm not continually rubbing crap in all day.

-Vaughn

VaughnTrue · 12-03-2007, 11:29 AM

and bump

JJC · 12-03-2007, 12:34 PM

I think you'd be better off with one or the other since they are both going to decrease estrogen levels. It just seems redundant to me.

Just going with Formestane will be probably be plenty (good sh!t). If I had both products, I would use them on separate occasions.

If you were looking to stack, I would pick up either a test booster (trib based or divanil based<-my preference since it will free up bound test) and maybe an cortisol control product to make a nice NHA stack.

******I know this doesn't answer your question, but it will prolong the life of your supps and money without wasting anything. Visit Neoborn's Formestane FAQ thread to get your Form questions answered. Visit the primordial performance website to see how to dose Dermacrine Sustain body-weight dependently...I think they have a chart on there.

thebigt · 12-04-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

How would everyone here dose this for a 200lbs guy?

For the DS I was figuring I would follow the recommended dosage of 5 pumps/day for 6 weeks(2 bottles).

I planned on using the Formestane @ 50mg 2 times/day for a total of 100mg.

Would it be possible to put my Formestane into my bottle of DS? Get it so I can get 50mg out of 2.5-3pumps(possibly use 6 pumps/day)? That would be cool so I'm not continually rubbing crap in all day.

-Vaughn

i talked to eric at pp about this, his response was ds is pretty much saturated. they do sell a carrier that i am interested in, it appears the form will mix up better than with penetrate the drawback being it is more expensive. i believe formestane/resveratrol would be a hellava stack. btw your dosing looks good to start, you can adjust as you go along.

VaughnTrue · 12-04-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by thebigt

i talked to eric at pp about this, his response was ds is pretty much saturated. they do sell a carrier that i am interested in, it appears the form will mix up better than with penetrate the drawback being it is more expensive. i believe formestane/resveratrol would be a hellava stack. btw your dosing looks good to start, you can adjust as you go along.

sweet. this shall be my stack starting in january then hopefully.

i am gonna grab 2 bottles of DS and 20 grams of formestane, and a carrier...i hear penetrate works fine for everyone, but if there is a significantly better one, I will use it.

so how will I go about dosing this? I guess I'll have to switch off DS on my nuts one day...Form on my nuts the next day...

lol jp

neoborn · 12-05-2007, 02:23 AM

I think you'll find as per Prld2gr8ns said that the carrier for DS is most likely already saturated.

Penetrate and Formestane work fine. From what I have heard / read flogel? Phlogel is better.

For more info: Neoborns Formestane FAQ.

Much Love,

Neoborn

Jstrong20 · 12-05-2007, 03:46 AM

I would of went with the regular dermacrine plus formestane. I like formestane alot but haven't used dermacrine yet. It sounds like a stronger product than sustain though. Plus the formestane will keep the dhea from bloating you.

thebigt · 12-05-2007, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by VaughnTrue

sweet. this shall be my stack starting in january then hopefully.

i am gonna grab 2 bottles of DS and 20 grams of formestane, and a carrier...i hear penetrate works fine for everyone, but if there is a significantly better one, I will use it.

so how will I go about dosing this? I guess I'll have to switch off DS on my nuts one day...Form on my nuts the next day...

lol jp

look into the carrier primordial sells, sounds like a better carrier than penetrate. i am going to give it a shot and see. btw it IS more expensive. i think this will be a great stack, imo reveratrol/formestane will be killer. oh yeah, stacking an ai with resveratrol has been done before, just look at 6oxo extreme. but i think formestane will be a better match. good luck.

thebigt · 12-05-2007, 07:11 AM

oh yeah, please log this!

neoborn · 12-05-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by thebigt

oh yeah, please log this!

x2

Much Love,

Neoborn

VaughnTrue · 12-05-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by neoborn

I think you'll find as per Prld2gr8ns said that the carrier for DS is most likely already saturated.

Penetrate and Formestane work fine. From what I have heard / read flogel? Phlogel is better.

For more info: Neoborns Formestane FAQ.

Much Love,

Neoborn

Phlogel it is then.

what are your thoughts on using Dermacrine as opposed to Dermacrine Sustain? DS has more actives(more isn't always better though).

-Vaughn

neoborn · 12-06-2007, 11:42 AM

Please ask a few more people as what I say isn't always the best opinion. I'll find you a couple links to read up on:

Dermacrine - Pro Hormone type deal for an 'on' cycle stacked or alone

Dermacrine - More of a PCT type product from what I understand or an every day type cycle product.

Here's a good link to read up on:

Dermacrine - The Perfect Winter Supplement

Best premade transdermal carrier

Best transdermal matrix

Much Love,

Neoborn

Primordial Perf · 12-06-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jstrong20

I would of went with the regular dermacrine plus formestane. I like formestane alot but haven't used dermacrine yet. It sounds like a stronger product than sustain though. Plus the formestane will keep the dhea from bloating you.

Yes, both Neo and Jstrong have a good point here.

Dermacrine and Formestane would be a great stack, while Sustain would serve as PCT for this.

Ive always thought Form to be too strong as just an all around supplement for boosting T. I think its best used to counter some kind of estrogenic action from an exogenous source... which is why it would stack well with Dermacrine if your looking for really dry/lean gains since Dermacrine can be slightly estrogenic even with the resveratrol, ect.

To be honest, Sustain (resveratrol) will not bring estrogen down much at all so no need to worry about this. Its benefits come from other actions. (those of which are largely unknown)

-Pp

thebigt · 12-07-2007, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Primordial Perf

Yes, both Neo and Jstrong have a good point here.

Dermacrine and Formestane would be a great stack, while Sustain would serve as post cycle therapy for this.

Ive always thought Form to be too strong as just an all around supplement for boosting T. I think its best used to counter some kind of estrogenic action from an exogenous source... which is why it would stack well with Dermacrine if your looking for really dry/lean gains since Dermacrine can be slightly estrogenic even with the resveratrol, ect.

To be honest, Sustain (resveratrol) will not bring estrogen down much at all so no need to worry about this. Its benefits come from other actions. (those of which are largely unknown)

-Pp

you think formestane is to strong? half the people on this forum are on designer steriods. i think form/resveratrol/nettle would be as good as it gets without going ph. this is just my opinion, but i have used formestane many times in different combinations and always had stellar results. dont forget the man who first brought resveratrol to mainstream, patrick arnold. and what did he do? he added resverarol to an ai, 6oxo. i am not trying to be argumentative just defending a product that has gave me great results time after time. sorry about the rant, long night at work.