Excess Arachidonic Acid is damagingthe inflammation and Joint

[John Smeton]

If you look at the Special Winter edition 2007-2008 Life extension magazine it has all the diagrams and information. Simply put excess
Arachidonic Acid is damaging. This is how it works Consumption of Arachidonic acid-rich foods such as egg yolk, red meat, poultry, dairy products and organ meat, and of course taking it directly leads to a lot of Arachidonic Acid in the body. A lot of Arachidonic acid converts to increased production of 5-Lipoxygenase(5-LOX), which interferes with healthy Cellular divison.) 5-LOX breaks down to eccess accumulation of leukotriene B4, a pro-inflamatory compound that attacks the joints, arterial wall, and other tissues

There is one supplement out there that inhibits the production of 5-Lipoxygenase so this can be useful.

Fish and olive oils are not recommended because they block the InFlammation and Joint Destruction Arachidonic Acid causes.

These are pure facts!

In defense of Arachidonic Acid, if it works it works. Some one on this board pmed me warnign me not to try it. We have a few logs here that says it working.


Offense of Arachidonic Acid it better work d.a.m.n. like it says and not any less because the side effcts and damage to arterie walls, joints and inflammation are no way the price to pay for two pounds. It better be at least ten pounds. and than you better take a break and get plenty of fish and olive oil in.

[Aeternitatis]

What happens when things get "simply put"? Well, they often get misrepresented.

That's all.

[Topfueljunkie]

Oh boy ! Here we go again with another "Arachidonic Acid is bad for you" thread ! I gotta tell ya man that there have been numerous studies done AA that Molecular did ensuring safety AND efficacy before the release of X-factor. There was a double blind, placebo controlled evaluation done on x-factor (which is AA) and there were NO significant changes in clinical safety markers indicating detrimental effects to health. JJOHN!!!!!....Get in here and help a bro out!

Edit: Tell 'em Aety!!!

[krogtaar]

wow you are smart...biochemist?

[matthew76]

Smelton - I could actually understand your post - - - - this time, so congrates on that!

But bro, ANYTHING can be bad for you. No matter what drug, supplement, fruit, toilet paper - it all can be bad for you. Someone will find a way to throw a negative spin on it - trust me! If you do not feel comfortable taking it - you have that choice.

Even the 'natural' supplements can be bad.

[Topfueljunkie]

wow you are smart...biochemist?

who? me?

[John Smeton]

Smelton - I could actually understand your post - - - - this time, so congrates on that!

But bro, ANYTHING can be bad for you. No matter what drug, supplement, fruit, toilet paper - it all can be bad for you. Someone will find a way to throw a negative spin on it - trust me! If you do not feel comfortable taking it - you have that choice.

Even the 'natural' supplements can be bad.

Of course, Matthew too much of anythingcan be bad for you.Im stating facts. If it turns out to work and relatively safe, Ill be happy to put on another ten pounds of muscle on my big ass. Have you tryed arachidonic-acid yourself or are you trying it?

[Topfueljunkie]

Smelton - I could actually understand your post - - - - this time, so congrates on that!

Now THAT'S FUNNY!

[John Smeton]

wow you are smart...biochemist?

Nope its in the life extension magazine.

[John Smeton]

Crowler, I see you in the thread, what is your take on excess arachidonic-acid?

[TripDog]

Smelton - I could actually understand your post - - - - this time, so congrates on that!

But bro, ANYTHING can be bad for you. No matter what drug, supplement, fruit, toilet paper - it all can be bad for you. Someone will find a way to throw a negative spin on it - trust me! If you do not feel comfortable taking it - you have that choice.

Even the 'natural' supplements can be bad.

GOOD POST brother................check your E-mail!!!!

[matthew76]

I'm not going to try it - it's just not for me.

Of course, Matthew too much of anythingcan be bad for you.Im stating facts. If it turns out to work and relatively safe, Ill be happy to put on another ten pounds of muscle on my big ass. Have you tryed arachidonic-acid yourself or are you trying it?

[BullzEye]

Oh Geez, not this sh*t again!

[ReaperX]

There seems to be a lot of controversy about AA. I already ordered a couple bottles of X-Factor anyway just to try it out.

Since I am natural and I don't want to use hormonal supplements this is a good alternative to try, which is why I am trying it out. At the same time one cycle of X-Factor will not kill you.

Despite what bad press AA gets, I find it hard to believe that X-Factor is worse than Superdrol.

[ReaperX]

At any rate, at least for me there are not a lot of decent options out there right now for natural quality supps so I decided to just give x-factor a whirl....again.

[edwards]

good info smeton. all information that helps
people make informed decisions is good.

[ReaperX]

I like the idea of supplementing long-term with AA though (i.e. 1 gel/day only). I think the safety aspect is dose dependent.

[strategicmove]

We need to approach this rather "sensitive" issue in a balanced fashion. No one is attacking X-Factor. It appears to be a solid formulation. There are very good reviews of the product here, as we all know. Yet, it is still legitimate to draw attention to the inflammatory properties of arachidonic acid. Smeaton_yea's points are valid. I have also done one thread and several posts on arachidonic acid on this forum. And even reproduced the charts from Life Extension to show arachidonic acid's role in the inflammatory cascade, plus the different anti-inflammatory agents that can be used to neutralize arachidonic acid.

I understand jjohn's position on this product. And respect it. I think highly of him as a true believer in his product. X-Factor is a successful product. I would personally not use it, though, as I do not want to expose my system to such onslaught of inflammatory agents over an extended period of time. This does not take anything away from X-Factor and its efficacy. To everyone his own

[dsade]

First you need to account for the fact that AA is incorporated into your celullar membrane. The act of working out FREES that AA and sends it into the cascade that results in production of prostaglandins (thus triggering growth).

Excess AA intake, without working out, would be the culprit IMO.

Think of your membranes like a sponge, and working out like squeezing the sponge...once you free the AA to do its thing, you will not have a huge amount accumulating to do much, if any, damage.

[ReaperX]

First you need to account for the fact that AA is incorporated into your celullar membrane. The act of working out FREES that AA and sends it into the cascade that results in production of prostaglandins (thus triggering growth).

Excess AA intake, without working out, would be the culprit IMO.

Think of your membranes like a sponge, and working out like squeezing the sponge...once you free the AA to do its thing, you will not have a huge amount accumulating to do much, if any, damage.

Per daily serving, what amount would be considered 'excess' ?