[nicktorres81]

hey guys i am doing my first ph cycle i am going to do

superdrol ng 4x day
trisorbagen 4x day
4weeks
apct 4 x day
4weeks
no x pre work out
cell tech post workout
and protien
i am kind of new to the game been lifting for about 5 years
is this a good cycle could use some advice thanks

[thesinner]

I would drop the NO Xplode. You're going to have WAY TO MUCH stimulant preworkout.

[nicktorres81]

sweet thanks a bunch bro. go chargers!!

[heebs10]

if u didnt already buy the cell tech i would say to buy the cheapest plain creatine mono you can find and mix in some dextrose to save your self some money. creatine is creatine, all the same so why pay more.

[nicktorres81]

sweet thanks i was thinking of adding mass fx also but i want to see how i respond to the superdrol ng first

[warbird01]

Originally Posted by nicktorres81

sweet thanks i was thinking of adding mass fx also but i want to see how i respond to the superdrol ng first

are you using superdrol ng as a pre workout supp or a "mass builder"?

[timdull2]

If this is your first run of SDNG or any other PH, I'd drop the MFX idea for now. The combo is potent, but if you're not used to anything like these, then the effect may be too much for you right now. (He says shaking his head that he just said that...)

Sinner's right - drop the Cell Tech. That much stim together with SDNG is gonna really hit you, and even if you could handle it, there'd be an inevitable crash which would be completely disappointing to your workout. IMHO, NO products are mostly baloney - expensive for what they do, which is a good pump in they gym, only to fall flat once you get home.

Cell Tech is also on the pricey side and many slam M-tech for their products being overhyped and partly ineffective. There's tons of other creatine products out on the market that are much less expensive. If you really are set on taking a creatine, look around first.

But aside from that, SDNG in itself should give you the boost and stamina to power through your exercise. To me, NO products are good stims and creatines are good for stamina. With SDNG, users have reported good or great things in both of those departments - making NOXp and C-tech unnecessary!

If ya took my advice, you'd also save about $100! That's enough to get aPCT for after the SDNG is done (you remembered that part, didn't ya?!?!), as well as pick up another SDNG and maybe even some MFX for another go around!!! I'm thrifty, and anytime I find a good way to save a buck, I take advantage of it!!

Best of luck to you, bro! Call on us if you need anything else!

[atnartist]

" IMHO, NO products are mostly baloney - expensive for what they do, which is a good pump in they gym, only to fall flat once you get home. "

I have to disagree, no products keep the blood flow more eficent, hense making the proteins and carbs get to the muscle tissue better and cleans the toxins from your blood better. On the flip side creatine with an ethyl ester malate seems to have a better absorbtion I personally like cell mass and its quite a bit cheaper than cell tech and yes, always add about 50 to 70 grams of PURE EVAPORATED CANE JUICE to your post work out drink because of the insulin spike wich will also have your muscles working over time squeezing in every drop of protein and creatine to start recovery/rebuilding. No products are excellent and if I could only afford two things they would be no in pill form for all day effects and creatine with a good diet. Nitrix is my choice.

[nicktorres81]

cool i do like the no xplode but will have to drop it when on the superdrol. I did remember the pct a picked up aptc from ax, I have tryed cell mass before and had no response from it, i do how ever like the cell tech but you are right about the cost. I am trying to bulk up i am 5'9" about 165 I increase in strength but not size i take about 300 grm of protien daily and eat like a horse. part of it is that i work graveyards so my sleep pattern is messed up.

[atnartist]

I like the no xplode also but actually I was referring to the nitrix pills because they are time released and taken every six hours they work in conjunction with your nutritrion intake, no xplode also works in the same way but not time released, it works while you are working out primarily and as a PRE-INGNITER, in other words mostly to get you jacked for working out, if your motivated you dont need it, its nice but not necesary unless you just have extra cash to burn.

[macedaddy]

let us know how the cycle turns out!

[timdull2]

Originally Posted by atnartist

" IMHO, NO products are mostly baloney - expensive for what they do, which is a good pump in they gym, only to fall flat once you get home. "

I have to disagree, no products keep the blood flow more eficent, hense making the proteins and carbs get to the muscle tissue better and cleans the toxins from your blood better. On the flip side creatine with an ethyl ester malate seems to have a better absorbtion I personally like cell mass and its quite a bit cheaper than cell tech and yes, always add about 50 to 70 grams of PURE EVAPORATED CANE JUICE to your post work out drink because of the insulin spike wich will also have your muscles working over time squeezing in every drop of protein and creatine to start recovery/rebuilding. No products are excellent and if I could only afford two things they would be no in pill form for all day effects and creatine with a good diet. Nitrix is my choice.

I won't dispute that at all. The shuttle mechanisms found in NO products are good in that fashion. However, it's the major "selling point" of "mind-blowing" or "skin-bursting" pumps that bugs me. It's just bogus when there are other selling points as well. If I had a preference, it would be to do the bulk powders instead, avoiding the 'cocktail effect', and drop the price down a ton. I've used bulk L-arginine to help increase blood flow in the past as I have a bit of blood flow issues. Standing up and blacking out runs in my family, though BP is within normal range. For shuttling purposes, bulk L-arg and WMS might be a similar option.

Also, let me stress, this is a personal opinion on the matter. Just a preference from me that I formulated from things for me. I'll not flame for choices, only provide alternatives when requested.

[MadJimF]

superdrol ng, trisorbagen, cell tech, yeah those all fit together as same level of supplement.

crap.

Originally Posted by nicktorres81

hey guys i am doing my first ph cycle i am going to do

superdrol ng 4x day
trisorbagen 4x day
4weeks
apct 4 x day
4weeks
no x pre work out
cell tech post workout
and protien
i am kind of new to the game been lifting for about 5 years
is this a good cycle could use some advice thanks

[nicktorres81]

well then what would you sugggest since your so good at putting down supps. why don,t you back it up with one's that are worthy in your eyes.

[warbird01]

Originally Posted by MadJimF

superdrol ng, trisorbagen, cell tech, yeah those all fit together as same level of supplement.

crap.

uh oh... im sensing a

[nicktorres81]

HAHA Nah just looking for help bro so i don't look like a