Dermacrine - The Perfect Winter Supplement

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    This is very rare... especially if you have some kind of weight lifting regimen or physical activity you participating in. Most men actually find themselves sleeping better while on Dermacrine.

    -Pp
    You mean someone on Sustain sleeping better right?
    i just purchased Sustain two mins ago...haha


  2. Quote Originally Posted by davidcyt View Post
    You mean someone on Sustain sleeping better right?
    i just purchased Sustain two mins ago...haha
    Opps, thought you were talking about Dermacrine...but either way you should be fine on Sustain. Some guys notice a "rush" or feeling of excitement after putting on the Sustain so that might be a reason to only put the product on in the morning.... but this feeling may be totally psychological.

    -Pp
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  3. I never had any issues with sleep with Derm or Sustain fwiw.

  4. Could you take a peek in your forum please primordial performance Got some q's there.

  5. Right now i am running a stack of trans formestane with diesel test hardcore and trib test extreme...and im loving it btw! Once my form runs out i was thinking about using one of your products as a sort of pct. Mainly because im loving the libido boost right now and i dont want a repound effect from coming off of these products. Doi you think Sustain or regular Dermacrine would be a good option for me?
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  6. As a tac-on question to deadlifter's question, who is stacking Form/DTHC/Tribulus - What if he were to sub the Form for Dermacrine? Would Dermacrine stacked with a booster such as DTHC or Activate Xtreme be advisable?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by deadlifter25 View Post
    Right now i am running a stack of trans formestane with diesel test hardcore and trib test extreme...and im loving it btw! Once my form runs out i was thinking about using one of your products as a sort of post cycle therapy. Mainly because im loving the libido boost right now and i dont want a repound effect from coming off of these products. Doi you think Sustain or regular Dermacrine would be a good option for me?
    Sustain would be the PCT choice.

    -Pp

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Highlanda01602 View Post
    As a tac-on question to deadlifter's question, who is stacking Form/DTHC/Tribulus - What if he were to sub the Form for Dermacrine? Would Dermacrine stacked with a booster such as DTHC or Activate Xtreme be advisable?
    What are the ingredients in these other formulas?

    -Pp

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    What are the ingredients in these other formulas?

    -Pp
    Form is just transdermal formestane. DTHC is this plus some other things:

    Proprietary Blend:
    1671 mg **
    Gelatinized Maca Root
    Epimedium (Horny Goat Weed) (min 20% Icariin)
    Nettle Root (Urtica dioica)
    Avena Sativa (standardized for Avenacosides A&B)
    Lecithin
    Di-Indlyl-Methane (DIM)
    Panax Ginseng
    Rhodiola Rosea
    Rosemary
    Tongkat Ali (Eurycoma Longifolia Jack)
    Dodder Seed
    Gynostemma
    Cnidium Monnieri
    Bioperine

  10. And activate xtreme is just an extract of stinging nettle root I believe.

    Neither DTHC or Act xtreme overlap with Dermacrine or Sustain so you could stack a Primordial product with either one imo...

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Highlanda01602 View Post
    As a tac-on question to deadlifter's question, who is stacking Form/DTHC/Tribulus - What if he were to sub the Form for Dermacrine? Would Dermacrine stacked with a booster such as DTHC or Activate Xtreme be advisable?

    Yeah, I don’t see a problem using either product with Dermacrine, but I think other pro-hormone type products stack best with it. (activate extreme has a couple pro-hormones doesnt it?)

    The DTHC seems like something that would stack better with the Sustain… for natural stimulation of testosterone.

    -Pp

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Yeah, I don’t see a problem using either product with Dermacrine, but I think other pro-hormone type products stack best with it. (activate extreme has a couple pro-hormones doesnt it?)

    The DTHC seems like something that would stack better with the Sustain… for natural stimulation of testosterone.

    -Pp
    True, I hear ya on stacking it with other PH's (read some feedback here and there about how guys love the results/libido it brings to say, an Epidrol cycle), but I'm actually not into PH at the moment... a lighter version with minimal sides however, such as your Dermacrine, definitly interests me though.
    Just for knowledge - no active PH's in activate xtreme (just a test boosting product, but regarded as one of the better ones out there). Diesel Test Hardcore competes with it, in a way.

    So, if I were to stack Dermacrine (saving Sustain for a sudo-pct type deal afterwards) with something of no PH signifigance, such as an OTC test booster, is there anything I should avoid? I'm assuming no, but just thought I'd ask for clarification!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Highlanda01602 View Post
    True, I hear ya on stacking it with other PH's (read some feedback here and there about how guys love the results/libido it brings to say, an Epidrol cycle), but I'm actually not into PH at the moment... a lighter version with minimal sides however, such as your Dermacrine, definitly interests me though.
    Just for knowledge - no active PH's in activate xtreme (just a test boosting product, but regarded as one of the better ones out there). Diesel Test Hardcore competes with it, in a way.

    So, if I were to stack Dermacrine (saving Sustain for a sudo-post cycle therapy type deal afterwards) with something of no PH signifigance, such as an OTC test booster, is there anything I should avoid? I'm assuming no, but just thought I'd ask for clarification!

    Your right I think I had Activate confused with another product. So yes, your plan sounds solid!

    -Pp

  14. I have Epistane, HDrol, and Havoc on hand as well as PheraPlex. Just from what I've read, Dermacrine would stack well with the Epistane, Havoc, or HDrol without being too suppresive, right? Would I be ok with Post Cycle Support by AI and Sustain with an NHA stack with either of those 3 stacks? I know I couldn't with the Phera as I have a serm for that already. Thoughts?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by BoneDaddy View Post
    I have Epistane, HDrol, and Havoc on hand as well as PheraPlex. Just from what I've read, Dermacrine would stack well with the Epistane, Havoc, or HDrol without being too suppresive, right? Would I be ok with Post Cycle Support by AI and Sustain with an NHA stack with either of those 3 stacks? I know I couldn't with the Phera as I have a serm for that already. Thoughts?
    It not so much what PH your taking as it is the length of time you are on that will determine the amount you are “shut down”. IMO, pro-hormones can be just as suppressive as AAS. (assuming the same half-life) For example, a non-aromatizing AAS would be just as suppressive as a non-aromatizing pro-hormone… just like a lightly aromatizing AAS like Boldenone is just as suppressive as some of the lighter pro-hormones on the market. It’s all relative and just because something is legal doesn’t mean it’s less suppressive.

    So to answer your question, I think that you could run a combo of any of those products long as you kept the length of the cycle under 6 weeks. Sustain, perhaps combined with a typical SERM or T booster would be fine for PCT.

    -Pp

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    It not so much what PH your taking as it is the length of time you are on that will determine the amount you are “shut down”. IMO, pro-hormones can be just as suppressive as anabolic steroids. (assuming the same half-life) For example, a non-aromatizing AAS would be just as suppressive as a non-aromatizing pro-hormone… just like a lightly aromatizing AAS like Boldenone is just as suppressive as some of the lighter pro-hormones on the market. It’s all relative and just because something is legal doesn’t mean it’s less suppressive.

    So to answer your question, I think that you could run a combo of any of those products long as you kept the length of the cycle under 6 weeks. Sustain, perhaps combined with a typical SERM or T booster would be fine for post cycle therapy.

    -Pp
    Right, totally understand. I'm definitely sticking to 4 weeks for the most part and want to stay away from SERMS if possible due to fear of buying in light of recent events. I'm thinking of starting with HDrol stacked with Dermacrine, followed by PCT by AI and Sustain with a NHA stack. Thanks for the reply.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by BoneDaddy View Post
    Right, totally understand. I'm definitely sticking to 4 weeks for the most part and want to stay away from SERMS if possible due to fear of buying in light of recent events. I'm thinking of starting with HDrol stacked with Dermacrine, followed by post cycle therapy by AI and Sustain with a NHA stack. Thanks for the reply.
    That sounds like a good stack, I'm sure you'll enjoy it and bounce back quick in PCT. I usually get lethargic on H-drol and the Dermacrine def. helps in that department.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Botch View Post
    That sounds like a good stack, I'm sure you'll enjoy it and bounce back quick in post cycle therapy. I usually get lethargic on H-drol and the Dermacrine def. helps in that department.

    Thanks for the reply bro. Did you have any recomp effect with HDrol or was it primarily mass? I think the Dermacrine and the Sustain should give me both with the HDrol? Did you dose @ 50mg or 75mg?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by BoneDaddy View Post
    Thanks for the reply bro. Did you have any recomp effect with HDrol or was it primarily mass? I think the Dermacrine and the Sustain should give me both with the HDrol? Did you dose @ 50mg or 75mg?
    I was on a bulk w/ low body fat so no recomp but a gain of 7 lbs. The picture in my avatar is 3/4's of the way through my cycle so that should give you an idea of where I am at. I ran the H-drol at 50mg venturing to 75mg only a few days. If you are looking for a body recomp. then these products are perfectly suited to aid you in achieving that goal so long as your diet and training are in order first.

  20. Just came across Dermacrine and from what I have seen so far, it looks quite impressive.

    Currently running Activate Xtreme, Alpha Drive XL, and Restore. Have surgery scheduled in late January, but already planning for the following stack to help jump start my workouts afterwards:

    Dermacrine:
    4 weeks

    Dermacrine Sustain and Restore:
    4 weeks

    Anyone else done this type of cycle so far?

  21. I ran a 4 week Dermacrine, followed by sustained sustain. I am on my second botle of sustain and have tapered the dose down to just half the recomended dosage. I have had a better experience with sustain than dermacrine. The D wasn't bad mind you no real side effects to worry about for me but I had a better response to sustain. I have not updated my log recently but will try to get to it soon with some pics. My results have mainly been noticeable leaner especially around the very stubborn lower abb fat that I have never really been able to shed as well as a constant state of fullness. Probably at 41 a lower dose will provide good results since nat test is already diminished. Good stuff!

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Bering C View Post
    I ran a 4 week Dermacrine, followed by sustained sustain. I am on my second botle of sustain and have tapered the dose down to just half the recomended dosage. I have had a better experience with sustain than dermacrine. The D wasn't bad mind you no real side effects to worry about for me but I had a better response to sustain. I have not updated my log recently but will try to get to it soon with some pics. My results have mainly been noticeable leaner especially around the very stubborn lower abb fat that I have never really been able to shed as well as a constant state of fullness. Probably at 41 a lower dose will provide good results since nat test is already diminished. Good stuff!
    thanks for the review

  23. How long are you planning on running Sustain for?

    Curious why you didn't get better results with the Dermacrine compared to the Sustain? Did you combine the Dermacrine with anything else?


    Quote Originally Posted by Bering C View Post
    I ran a 4 week Dermacrine, followed by sustained sustain. I am on my second botle of sustain and have tapered the dose down to just half the recomended dosage. I have had a better experience with sustain than dermacrine. The D wasn't bad mind you no real side effects to worry about for me but I had a better response to sustain. I have not updated my log recently but will try to get to it soon with some pics. My results have mainly been noticeable leaner especially around the very stubborn lower abb fat that I have never really been able to shed as well as a constant state of fullness. Probably at 41 a lower dose will provide good results since nat test is already diminished. Good stuff!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    IMO, pro-hormones can be just as suppressive as anabolic steroids. (assuming the same half-life) For example, a non-aromatizing AAS would be just as suppressive as a non-aromatizing pro-hormone… just like a lightly aromatizing AAS like Boldenone is just as suppressive as some of the lighter pro-hormones on the market. It’s all relative and just because something is legal doesn’t mean it’s less suppressive.


    -Pp
    Without reading much of this thread I am going to respond to the part I underlined. I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Pro-hormones are converted to steroids through enzymes in the body. So I see no real difference between the two besides the conversion.....

  25. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Without reading much of this thread I am going to respond to the part I underlined. I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Pro-hormones are converted to steroids through enzymes in the body. So I see no real difference between the two besides the conversion.....
    Right, I think we are on the same page here…

    I was basically saying all pro-hormones, pro-steroids, and steroids can essentially have the same potential to cause muscle growth and induce side effects. Just because something is a “pro-hormone” doesn’t mean it’s less effective or less suppressive than a “steroid”.

    For example, 150mg/week of Testosterone is probably as suppressive as a regular 5 pump dose of Dermacrine. (ie a high enough dose of DHEA as a pro-hormone is as suppressive as testosterone as a steroid)

    -Pp

  26. I have commented before and will again, This is a top notch company, everything from good customer service(VERY knowledgeable when I asked questions on the phone), lightning fast shipping, and effective products, I have used all three of their transdermals, and they meet product claims(Increased leanness,libido, strength, and overall well being)

    Just putting the word out because they do not sell(as of yet) to online stores, so they don't get the attention they deserve.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by fatburner2007 View Post
    How long are you planning on running Sustain for?

    Curious why you didn't get better results with the Dermacrine compared to the Sustain? Did you combine the Dermacrine with anything else?
    Dermacrine was solo as was Sustain. I can't really answer your question as to why sustain SEEMED to work better. I definitly got results with D. I have used PH in the past and whiile I have gotten good results I always seem to get the same or better with a product that increases test on a more natural level. Could be age related, I also have been running sustain for around 10 weeks now following 4 weeks of D so it could be just that long of elevated test levels. I might keep running sustain I have not decided yet. I can say that I feel great, have lots of energy and this time of year tends to be super busy for me with very long sesions of work sometimes lasting up to 48 hrs plus add to that the serious riding that will be happening as soon as we get some more snow, I think sustain will be a part of the staples now. My wife has had great results with Tea-3 and Derma and is now willing to put some pics up.

  28. I have to agree with you!

    Accidentally came across this thread the other day and then checked out their website. Cannot wait for my Dermacrine and Dermacrine Sustain stack I am going to run in January.


    Quote Originally Posted by evan View Post
    I have commented before and will again, This is a top notch company, everything from good customer service(VERY knowledgeable when I asked questions on the phone), lightning fast shipping, and effective products, I have used all three of their transdermals, and they meet product claims(Increased leanness,libido, strength, and overall well being)

    Just putting the word out because they do not sell(as of yet) to online stores, so they don't get the attention they deserve.

  29. Primordial Perf - How long is it recommended to run Sustain? Bering C seemed to indicate the longer he runs it, the better the results.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by fatburner2007 View Post
    Primordial Perf - How long is it recommended to run Sustain? Bering C seemed to indicate the longer he runs it, the better the results.
    Yes, Sustain can be a long-term supplement for overall health and hormonal optimization.

    Whether or not testosterone continues to rise I couldn’t say, but resveratrol has a myriad of health benefits that are likely contributing to BeringC's good results. (increased cardiovascular health, insulin sensitivity, positive mitochondrial modulation, ect)

    -Pp
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