Dermacrine - The Perfect Winter Supplement
- 11-25-2007, 02:12 PM
I ran a 4 week Dermacrine, followed by sustained sustain. I am on my second botle of sustain and have tapered the dose down to just half the recomended dosage. I have had a better experience with sustain than dermacrine. The D wasn't bad mind you no real side effects to worry about for me but I had a better response to sustain. I have not updated my log recently but will try to get to it soon with some pics. My results have mainly been noticeable leaner especially around the very stubborn lower abb fat that I have never really been able to shed as well as a constant state of fullness. Probably at 41 a lower dose will provide good results since nat test is already diminished. Good stuff!
- 11-25-2007, 02:43 PM
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11-25-2007, 06:08 PM
11-26-2007, 03:07 AM
I was basically saying all pro-hormones, pro-steroids, and steroids can essentially have the same potential to cause muscle growth and induce side effects. Just because something is a “pro-hormone” doesn’t mean it’s less effective or less suppressive than a “steroid”.
For example, 150mg/week of Testosterone is probably as suppressive as a regular 5 pump dose of Dermacrine. (ie a high enough dose of DHEA as a pro-hormone is as suppressive as testosterone as a steroid)
11-26-2007, 03:52 AM
I have commented before and will again, This is a top notch company, everything from good customer service(VERY knowledgeable when I asked questions on the phone), lightning fast shipping, and effective products, I have used all three of their transdermals, and they meet product claims(Increased leanness,libido, strength, and overall well being)
Just putting the word out because they do not sell(as of yet) to online stores, so they don't get the attention they deserve.
11-26-2007, 01:56 PM
11-26-2007, 05:00 PM
11-26-2007, 05:17 PM
Primordial Perf - How long is it recommended to run Sustain? Bering C seemed to indicate the longer he runs it, the better the results.
11-26-2007, 07:32 PM
Whether or not testosterone continues to rise I couldn’t say, but resveratrol has a myriad of health benefits that are likely contributing to BeringC's good results. (increased cardiovascular health, insulin sensitivity, positive mitochondrial modulation, ect)
11-26-2007, 07:35 PM
PP, I have been meaning to ask you this but I thought at some point you mentioned Dermacrine stacked with another oral or whatever can act somewhat like HCG. Could you explain that a little more if I am recollecting that correctly?
I noticed when I used the Dermacrine with an oral only cycle testicular atrophy was much much less noticeable then without it. Maybe it was just luck though...
11-26-2007, 07:45 PM
11-27-2007, 12:10 AM
11-27-2007, 07:32 AM
11-27-2007, 05:34 PM
It seems like Dermacrine varies in strength depending on how your body reacts to the DHEA, but in general Dermacrine is the stronger product. If you want max gains I would say Dermacrine is your best bet. If you are afraid of PH products and you want the maximum natural Test production then just using Sustain is a better bet. For most people I would say 4 weeks of Dermacrine, then 4 weeks of Sustain for max gains, as opposed to 8 weeks of Sustain.
PP you agree?
11-28-2007, 02:24 AM
I also think that Sustain tends to be a better product for overall health, libido and sexual performance, whereas Dermacrine tends to be better for increasing strength and gym performance because of its ability to push hormone levels past normal physiological levels. It’s a little more hardcore.
11-28-2007, 07:38 AM
4 weeks of Dermacrine followed with Sustain then should be solid stack.
Primordial Perf - Now the question is what is the best duration of using Sustain? Also, after the use of stack, should you take a break for several weeks before running Dermacrine again?
I am thinking of adding in Restore too when I start the Sustain.
11-28-2007, 10:20 AM
What about 6 weeks of pulsing epistane and taking Dermacrine everyday and then follow up with 4 weeks of sustain? Also, if you guys think that this will work - what about using in conjunction with bulk powerful? I have got a ton of the old stuff left over.
Last edited by eagleba; 11-28-2007 at 10:24 AM. Reason: another question
11-28-2007, 03:05 PM
11-28-2007, 03:08 PM
11-28-2007, 04:03 PM
Great, thanks for the information. What about pulsing epistane, though? Still good idea?
11-28-2007, 04:20 PM
11-28-2007, 04:36 PM
11-28-2007, 04:39 PM
I also have a question for you...
Just ordered my first Dermacrine, very excited..
I was reading how the application is best put on the upper shoulders and back, as this "is where the hormones act"... with transdermal Formestane, the point was to just get it onto light-skinned areas, such as upper thighs, behind knees, ect.
I plan on going by the instructions and applying Dermacrine to the upper chest, shoulders and back, but I thought it was just interesting on how it is best put in some areas... is there any revelance to it, or was it just chosen because of the location being simple to remember for users?
11-28-2007, 07:12 PM
11-28-2007, 07:41 PM
As Highlanda mentioned, pulsing is simply a way to reduce some of the negatives associated with steriods/ prohormones. I have tried Phera plex and epistane and the gains were awesome. The side effects were hard on me - specifically lethargy. This is why I am interested in pulsing and your thread has me interested and motivated. Thanks
11-28-2007, 08:11 PM
I’ve always been a fan of 2-4 week burst cycles, it’s a great way to kick start gains without causing too much trouble for recovery. I can see how the pulse would help keep the PH’s from building up too high and causing side effects, but I doubt it really limits the amount of suppression.
11-28-2007, 08:58 PM
11-29-2007, 01:22 AM
11-29-2007, 02:33 AM
Just pondering... what if one were to up the dosage of Dermacrine? Say, twice the recommended dosage. Would that increase results? I'm not interested in other steroids/PH's due to the weight gain, so stacking with for example Epistane just isn't in my goals.
11-29-2007, 02:39 AM
11-29-2007, 01:49 PM
11-29-2007, 08:38 PM
11-30-2007, 08:53 AM
thanks PP, i applied sustain today, and i did feel great!
got another question. i am planing to run Dermacrine with Tbol next year, will that be a good combo?
11-30-2007, 09:17 AM
11-30-2007, 09:49 AM
11-30-2007, 02:06 PM
11-30-2007, 02:10 PM
I'm starting a dermacrine log this weekend. I'll be running it along side MST's ZMK and somnidren-GH, and possibly leviathan reloaded. I have sustain lined up for the month following.
12-01-2007, 12:57 PM
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