Dermacrine - The Perfect Winter Supplement

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Yes, they should have our products ready to sell soon...

    -Pp
    Thats just awesome!!!!


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    We actually designed our Tea-3 to be stacked with the DermaTherm.... as none of the ingredients would overlap.

    You would probably be fine with the DermaTherm and lean extreme it probably will just be a little 7-DHEA metabolite heavy.

    -Pp
    I figure there is such a thing as not enough cortisol? How likely is this?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by nelix View Post
    I figure there is such a thing as not enough cortisol? How likely is this?
    Yes there is such a thing. Its called Addison's disease and the general result is inflammation where Prednisone Or hydrocortisone are prescribed (cortisone = cortisol)

    However, anti-cortisol activity doesn’t necessarily mean a reduction in cortisol levels. Instead, the DHEA metabolites antagonize the effects of cortisol. More specifically, they block and ameliorate (improve & reorganize) the effects of cortisol so it becomes less damaging and more repairing. DHEA’s effects on total cortisol levels are pretty minor.

    -Pp

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Dermacrine would be a fine addition to your supplement regimen. If you only did 2-4 week cycles then you wouldn’t really need a post cycle therapy, but it certainly would keep things running optimally if you switched to Sustain during your Dermacrine off period.
    -Pp
    Does the mean Dermacrine is a very mild PH that wont cause shut down? Thanks

  5. Quote Originally Posted by davidcyt View Post
    Does the mean Dermacrine is a very mild PH that wont cause shut down? Thanks
    I wouldn’t say it’s very mild… it definitely pushes your hormones well past the normal physiological range. It certainly can cause shutdown, and even 2-4 weeks is long enough to cause a little inhibition. But a 2-4 week cycle isn’t really long enough to necessitate a PCT since your body will bounce back on its own fairly quickly. (within a week or so)

    -Pp
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    I wouldn’t say it’s very mild… it definitely pushes your hormones well past the normal physiological range. It certainly can cause shutdown, and even 2-4 weeks is long enough to cause a little inhibition. But a 2-4 week cycle isn’t really long enough to necessitate a post cycle therapy since your body will bounce back on its own fairly quickly. (within a week or so)

    -Pp
    Understood, thanks. Usually what kind of lean muscle gain we can expect in a 4 weeks cycle?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by davidcyt View Post
    Understood, thanks. Usually what kind of lean muscle gain we can expect in a 4 weeks cycle?

    If you using Dermacrine alone I wouldn’t expect big weight gains. Its going to improve body composition more than anything else... so as you lose a couple lbs of body fat you will gain a couple lbs of lean mass and your weight will stay the same.

    I can recall one instance where a guy dropped 2% in BF in 4 weeks without making any changes to his diet or workout program.

    If you’re looking for some more gains in size consider stacking Dermacrine with any number of the various oral pro-hormones… or maybe even a methoxyflavone/edcdysterone sup.

    -Pp

  8. David, run a search for my logs. I did one where I stacked Dermacrine with Epidrol (epi clone). Worked out quite well. I also noticed physical signs of shutdown were virtually non-existent when I stacked the epi compound with Dermacrine compared to when I did not stack with the Derm.

  9. Thanks man, your answers are really helpful and i think i will give sustain a try first.
    btw.Sustain will in NP soon as well, right?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Travis View Post
    David, run a search for my logs. I did one where I stacked Dermacrine with Epidrol (epi clone). Worked out quite well. I also noticed physical signs of shutdown were virtually non-existent when I stacked the epi compound with Dermacrine compared to when I did not stack with the Derm.
    Thanks man, but i just finished my epi in Sep, i think i will stay off PH or anabolic steroids this year and stack Dermacrine with other things next year.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by davidcyt View Post
    Thanks man, your answers are really helpful and i think i will give sustain a try first.
    btw.Sustain will in NP soon as well, right?
    Yep, they should be stocking it soon.

    -Pp

  12. would you recommend dermacrine for a 21 year old? I read something about supplementing DHEA in men in their early 20s isnt as helpful as it is for older men.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by NateWA View Post
    would you recommend dermacrine for a 21 year old? I read something about supplementing DHEA in men in their early 20s isnt as helpful as it is for older men.
    I have noticed feedback with the older gentlemen has been very good. However feedback from guy younger (in their 20's) has been pretty positive as well. It's possible it is just more effective in the older guys but that should be obvious as hormone levels in the older guys are naturally declining. So this would be true of any PH/PS.

  14. If you guys are looking for big gains stack this product with a PH and you really won't be disappointed. I have run Epi in the past w/o Dermacrine and it killed my libido and made me lethargic. Travis's log inspired me to give Dermacrine a shot with my last Epi run and I had neither of these problems and I really noticed the extra boost it gave me. Sustain is an amazing product too, I will be using it as a staple in my PCT from now on. I'm glad to see that Nutra will finally be selling this line of products.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by NateWA View Post
    would you recommend dermacrine for a 21 year old? I read something about supplementing DHEA in men in their early 20s isnt as helpful as it is for older men.
    Yep, just what travis said.... older guys always tend to notice more from hormonal drugs & supps because their hormone levels are already fairly low.

    -Pp

  16. thanks I'll be getting some then.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by NateWA View Post
    thanks I'll be getting some then.
    Thats great bro... let us know how it goes.

    -Pp

  18. Quote Originally Posted by gogo View Post
    How is it labeled? Just curious if it will get past Canadian customs..
    Just curious because of the dhea...

  19. I was wondering if I was going to stack this with jungle warfare would it be better to get regular or sustain?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by gogo View Post
    Just curious because of the dhea...
    Yes, the DHEA is listed on the bottle in the ingredients list.

    -Pp

  21. Quote Originally Posted by NateWA View Post
    I was wondering if I was going to stack this with jungle warfare would it be better to get regular or sustain?
    Jungle warfare seems like something that would stack well with the Dermacrine.

    -Pp

  22. I wish there was more feedback around here about your products. But I jumped in and ordered one of each.

    I've wanted to give sustain a run for a long time, but I figured what the hell, and will try each one out. Once my log for diesel nut ends, I'll put one up for dermacrine.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    I wish there was more feedback around here about your products. But I jumped in and ordered one of each.

    I've wanted to give sustain a run for a long time, but I figured what the hell, and will try each one out. Once my log for diesel nut ends, I'll put one up for dermacrine.
    Sounds great bro... keep us updated.

    -Pp

  24. I have a question regarding to apply direction. i usually do cardio in the morning and i sweat a lot, my shirts are always like soak in water when i finish cardio.
    If i apply sustain when i wake up will that influence the effect?
    From i wake up to doing cardio is about 1hr.
    Thanks Pp

  25. Quote Originally Posted by davidcyt View Post
    I have a question regarding to apply direction. i usually do cardio in the morning and i sweat a lot, my shirts are always like soak in water when i finish cardio.
    If i apply sustain when i wake up will that influence the effect?
    From i wake up to doing cardio is about 1hr.
    Thanks Pp
    Id say you would be best off doing cardio, showering, then applying the Sustain.

    -Pp

  26. I need to try this stuff. Gotta have a sale!

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Id say you would be best off doing cardio, showering, then applying the Sustain.

    -Pp
    Thanks for the answer. I read from your website, someone get insomia even apply at 7:30 AM is that possible?

  28. PP,
    How would you compare Dermacrine to transdermal Formestane? To the best of my knowledge, Dermacrine seems to be more effective when addressing direct recomposition through increased test, while Formestane is more geared towards estrogen control, in tern relating to increased test levels.

    For simplicity, which product would you say has a better impact on recovery and muscle composition? I train with a lot of running and crossfit, and I'm about to give Formestane + Activate Xtreme a go. Would I be better suited with Dermacrine + Activate Xtreme?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by davidcyt View Post
    Thanks for the answer. I read from your website, someone get insomia even apply at 7:30 AM is that possible?
    This is very rare... especially if you have some kind of weight lifting regimen or physical activity you participating in. Most men actually find themselves sleeping better while on Dermacrine.

    -Pp

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Highlanda01602 View Post
    PP,
    How would you compare Dermacrine to transdermal Formestane? To the best of my knowledge, Dermacrine seems to be more effective when addressing direct recomposition through increased test, while Formestane is more geared towards estrogen control, in tern relating to increased test levels.

    For simplicity, which product would you say has a better impact on recovery and muscle composition? I train with a lot of running and crossfit, and I'm about to give Formestane + Activate Xtreme a go. Would I be better suited with Dermacrine + Activate Xtreme?
    Formestane and Dermacrine are quite different products for different uses, as you pointed out. Formestane is too strong of an anti-estrogen IMO which will likely end up hurting athletic performance (glycogen metabolism) and making athletes more injury prone from the negative effect on joints by estrogen deprivation.

    Dermacrine keeps estrogen in a normal range which is desirable for the athlete and it keeps the anabolic and androgenic hormones high that help an athlete maintain aggressive mental focus and fast muscle repair & recovery. It probably beats many steroids for its endurance and athletic performance enhancing abilities without weighing a user down with excessive bodyweight. (ie. excessive sodium/water/glycogen retention)

    -Pp
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