Supps for CKD
- 11-04-2007, 09:15 PM
Supps for CKD
I have my bulk on lock down and its going great. Now I need to set my sites on my CKD comming up in about 5 weeks. As most of you know i like to plan ahead with stacks and what not. Here's the plan so far
-BCAA's (20gr sipped on thru the day in 1gal H2O)
-Some type of pre-workout drink
-Bulk 1-carboxy (powerFULL)
I'm also going to be mega-doseing fish oil (30-40gr/day) and doing 25-30gr glutamine post-workout. (Both from Charles Poliquin)
Is there anything that looks like it'd be good to add or take out. I'm not takeing out the Glutamine, you may not like it but I do
- 11-04-2007, 09:51 PM
Just so people know CKD is the same as the anabolic diet. All based around no carbs/high fat/mod protein for a number of days and then a glycogen load for 12-48hrs.
11-04-2007, 09:55 PM
11-04-2007, 11:56 PM
Just started a keto diet as well. I'm doing twice weekly refeeds though. Your list sounds pretty good already.. I'm doing DCP before meals (and one serving pre-workout), Gut health morning and night (helps for high protein intake), fish oil, green tea, any stim (only if I'm really dragging). Workout supps: I might do a combo of bcaas/man octane (ba, cit malate etc). I've run out of creatine but when I get that back I'll be adding that in..
What else.. if you're hungry during the day you might consider an appetite suppressant like zappetite, or 5htp/zmk before bed (some people find it hard to sleep on keto? I'm usually fine though), you could also do some noots if you wanna keep your mood up.. pea or 1-3dimethyl.. oh yeah, would be good to add in some fibre- psyllium husks or flaxseed (ground, not the oil). Some na-r-ala or glucophase for your carb up days, or to get you back into ketosis quicker (maybe AP as well, but I'm yet to try it). You could also add sesamin/cla, but if you're already getting stacks of fat on keto it might not be necessary..
Calcium and multi too.. there's a severe lack of some vitamins/minerals on keto.. um I think that's it, use whatever whenever as needed
11-05-2007, 03:24 AM
Keto diets are very rich in vitamins. Vegetarian diets are highly deficient in them. Two opposite ends of the spectrum.
You're 180 degrees off the mark, I'm afraid.
11-05-2007, 03:56 AM
11-05-2007, 08:16 AM
11-05-2007, 08:27 AM
That looks alot of protein supplements for a CKD ~70g, not much room left for real food.
With regard to protein intake and ketosis, i'm assuming the body treats BCAA's and Glutamine the same as real food protein sources.
If it doesn't, let me know because i'm setting up a TKD for the new year and it would be useful to know.
You could add bulk Sesathin to your stack.
11-05-2007, 08:36 AM
Asian Babe thank you for your input. I dont know why i didn't think of CLA/Sesea combo. I'm sittin on an 8oz bottle of Sesamin Oil With NP price on CLA I'll pick up 4 or 5 bottles. I have enjoyed it previously at 6gr a day. Keep me updated on your progress por favor!!
Big Asian,feeding oranges to your cows for vit c =BRILIANT!!! good stuff man
11-05-2007, 09:51 AM
You forgot about Glutamine, using Glutamine post workout like that will throw you out of ketosis. It will replenish liver glycogen through glucogenesis.
11-05-2007, 10:16 AM
11-05-2007, 10:56 AM
11-05-2007, 10:58 AM
11-05-2007, 10:59 AM
My favourite (most helpfull):
Leptigen Basic - when was available (best supps for CKD I've ever had, steady fatloss all the time, I hope DSADE release it again sometime)
Gut Health - I have never been sick since I' first time bought Gut health (1 year I think ). I got some kind illness almost every time I did CKD before. I think that supplement deserve more respect.
Psyllium husk - good for .........
some kind appetite/energy supp Lev/DCP looks great. I used MAN Scorch. It's best stim/fat burner I have ever used so far. DCP alone is good apetite supressant.
Mega dosing Fish oil - good decision
Deluxe supps (not necessary, for rich man ):
Sesathin, Some kind testosterone booster formula (I used Dermacrine/Sustain), MAN Blueprint, MAN BodyOctane......
No protein supps - waste of money and time (only around workouts), you have plenty protein from meat,eggs, cheese.......
11-05-2007, 11:01 AM
If you like PowerFULL you definitely will want to be on that as it's very synergistic with this type of diet.
P-Slin + Na-RALA for Carb-ups
11-05-2007, 11:05 AM
11-05-2007, 11:10 AM
I was thinking of useing Yellow Gold for carb ups. I have about 30, 500mg caps sitting around. That and Vanadyl Sulfate.
I was going to use whey/casien bled post-workout. 1 scoop of each (50gr total).
I'll look into gut health. I always take NOW digestive Enzymes and Im about out so I'll pick p gut health next time.
11-05-2007, 11:53 AM
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11-05-2007, 12:51 PM
11-05-2007, 01:46 PM
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11-05-2007, 03:01 PM
11-05-2007, 04:04 PM
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11-05-2007, 07:07 PM
11-06-2007, 11:23 AM
11-06-2007, 05:55 PM
Ok so after a few days of discussion this is what im running with, I'm dropping the pre-workout cocktail......
-20gr BCAA's sipped on in a gezzy of water
-AN Intra-Bolic (only workout days will last the whole diet )
-Bulk 1-carboxy (1/4t-1/2t pre and before bed)
-NP beta-alanine caps (1 pre&post)
-Creatine Mono (5gr pre&post)--Mega-Dose on carb load (25gr/day)
-Leucine (5gr pre-workout)
-Mega-Dose Fish Oil (30gr)
Since I have it I'm gonna do Primaforce Sesamin Oil and NP CLA (2gr 3x's day)
11-06-2007, 05:59 PM
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