Boulderer
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I've seriously been considering doing a run of Epistane. However, some of the issues of post cycle therapy and potential problems vs. benefits have me wondering a few things.
Seeing as I have no access to a proper SERM, a straight through cycle is definitely not going to work. So it would have to be a pulse. What I'm wondering about, is would I be better served doing something like the AX UMC for 12 weeks vs a pulsing cycle of a PH compound?
It seems to me that all the side supps. you need for a PH cycle add up fast. Liver support, saw palmetto, hawthorne berry, milk thistle, etc. I know cycle support has all this, but cycle support never gets to Canada because of the red yeast rice. Then after a run of a PH you have post cycle therapy to deal with. If you don't have access to a SERM you need test boosters, AI, cortisol blocker, maybe something like post cycle support or dermacrine sustain, etc. Not to mention that maybe those things aren't strong enough to bring my boys back up and running. Not having done a PH cycle I don't know I specifically react to these compounds.
After all that's said and done, assuming I get minimal shutdown, I might end up with 8lbs of lean mass with a pulse. That just has me wondering if it's worth it? Perhaps I could run something "natural" (NHA, AX UMC, etc) for a longer period of time and get the same gains...yet not have to worry about shutdown, cholesterol, liver support, etc.
Before someone pipes in..I should mention all the requisite over 21, strict diet, proper sleep, proper training, etc, etc are all in order.
Thoughts? Assuming cost and/or patience in getting gains are not an issue, can you do just as well (or close) without the potential problems that a PH cycle can (sometimes) bring ?
Seeing as I have no access to a proper SERM, a straight through cycle is definitely not going to work. So it would have to be a pulse. What I'm wondering about, is would I be better served doing something like the AX UMC for 12 weeks vs a pulsing cycle of a PH compound?
It seems to me that all the side supps. you need for a PH cycle add up fast. Liver support, saw palmetto, hawthorne berry, milk thistle, etc. I know cycle support has all this, but cycle support never gets to Canada because of the red yeast rice. Then after a run of a PH you have post cycle therapy to deal with. If you don't have access to a SERM you need test boosters, AI, cortisol blocker, maybe something like post cycle support or dermacrine sustain, etc. Not to mention that maybe those things aren't strong enough to bring my boys back up and running. Not having done a PH cycle I don't know I specifically react to these compounds.
After all that's said and done, assuming I get minimal shutdown, I might end up with 8lbs of lean mass with a pulse. That just has me wondering if it's worth it? Perhaps I could run something "natural" (NHA, AX UMC, etc) for a longer period of time and get the same gains...yet not have to worry about shutdown, cholesterol, liver support, etc.
Before someone pipes in..I should mention all the requisite over 21, strict diet, proper sleep, proper training, etc, etc are all in order.
Thoughts? Assuming cost and/or patience in getting gains are not an issue, can you do just as well (or close) without the potential problems that a PH cycle can (sometimes) bring ?