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    Waxy Maize


    What are peoples thoughts on using this to load supps with.
    Also, whats a good brand to buy?

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    there is no "brand" of waxy maize I think. I think there all the same. It's kinda like dextrose, but better pumps so Ive heard.
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    I find Kwik Karb Waxy Maize to be a VERY potent workout and recovery enhancer.

    There are some discussion threads about stack ideas.
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    get the nutraplanet kwik karb good stuff if you can get past the kind of chalky taste.
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    If i get some this is what i planned on doing with it;


    PREWORKOUT:
    Waximaize
    1 Serving SMASH (Add to smash for better pumps)
    2g Beta Alanine

    IMMEDIATELY POST WORKOUT:
    70g Waxy Maize Starch
    2 Scoops Xtend
    1 Serving CLOUT

    25-30 MINS AFTER WORKOUT
    ~50g Protein

    I just heard some issues with taking it with protien and that it would be better to wait a little before ingesting protien thats why i put the delay in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nilla View Post
    If i get some this is what i planned on doing with it;


    PREWORKOUT:
    Waximaize
    1 Serving SMASH (Add to smash for better pumps)
    2g Beta Alanine

    IMMEDIATELY POST WORKOUT:
    70g Waxy Maize Starch
    2 Scoops Xtend
    1 Serving CLOUT

    25-30 MINS AFTER WORKOUT
    ~50g Protein

    I just heard some issues with taking it with protien and that it would be better to wait a little before ingesting protien thats why i put the delay in there.
    Glad you brought up the protein issues, I've never heard that before and was planning on taking them together.

    How long before your workout do you drink your WMS?
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    Big fan of Art Attwoods Professional Supplements pure vitargo, but too bad it's not more. Otherwise the kwik karb sounds nice. Stack it with some good old fashioned creatine mono and you'll gain pretty quick!
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    Instead of just protein, have a whole-food meal at that point. The BCAAs and WMS have kickstarted the growth/recovery and eating a solid meal is the best way to sustain.
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    i don't think there is any issue with WMS and protein. if anything the WMS will only increase absorption...i am not totally sure though. I have gotten SICK pumps off of a caffeine and WMS stack. I am not even sure if i will ever use a nitric oxide product again...I combine ergo AMP with my waximaize by IDS...loooove it.
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    I can't stand Waxy Maze pre workout. I find it makes me really lazy. You do get a great pump, but I'm too tired to get in a good workout.

    For post workout timing, I do basically exactly what you do NILLA. Protien will just slow the waxy maze down.
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    My preworkout mix includes a p-slin and about 90g of waxy maize from true protein and 5g of creatine monohydrate. This has to be the best preworkout formula I've ever tried. Crazy pumps and plenty of energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManInTheBox View Post
    i don't think there is any issue with WMS and protein. if anything the WMS will only increase absorption...i am not totally sure though. I have gotten SICK pumps off of a caffeine and WMS stack. I am not even sure if i will ever use a nitric oxide product again...I combine ergo AMP with my waximaize by IDS...loooove it.
    The IDS waximaize tastes good but damn if that wasn't the messiest powder I've ever used. Almost impossible to mix without getting it all over the place. Otherwise the only ids product I'll ever touch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Instead of just protein, have a whole-food meal at that point. The BCAAs and WMS have kickstarted the growth/recovery and eating a solid meal is the best way to sustain.
    Great Post. A real meal is a necessity post training, no matter what your goal.

    ...but, especially if your goal is to be awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    Great Post. A real meal is a necessity post training, no matter what your goal.

    ...but, especially if your goal is to be awesome.
    What would you recommend for someone whose goal is to NOT be awesome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    What would you recommend for someone whose goal is to NOT be awesome?
    Go check Thesinner's log, and copy his routines exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Go check Thesinner's log, and copy his routines exactly.
    I like what you did here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Go check Thesinner's log, and copy his routines exactly.
    Perfect! That's actually what I'm doing already. Looks like I'm on the right track (to anti-awesomeness).
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    I've been using Carb Slam from Primaforce for the last 6-8 weeks. It's definitely good for a bulk, but I don't recommend it while cutting. I've put on some serious weight in this time frame, but a noticeable amount of fat as well.

    You do get great pumps while using WMS. Far better than any other pre-workout shotgun mix. I've been mixing 70g of WMS with 70g Whey and 5g CEE pre and post workout, then I have a whole meal an hour after the postWO drink.

    When I start cutting, I think I'll just switch to some oatmeal and ezekiel bread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    I've been using Carb Slam from Primaforce for the last 6-8 weeks. It's definitely good for a bulk, but I don't recommend it while cutting. I've put on some serious weight in this time frame, but a noticeable amount of fat as well.

    You do get great pumps while using WMS. Far better than any other pre-workout shotgun mix. I've been mixing 70g of WMS with 70g Whey and 5g CEE pre and post workout, then I have a whole meal an hour after the postWO drink.

    When I start cutting, I think I'll just switch to some oatmeal and ezekiel bread.
    ezekiel bread is truly amazing stuff. i'm an addict.
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    I mix Waxy Maize ( custom True Protein Mix ), Dextrose, BCAA's, and Creatine. for my post workout drink. Then a protein shake with oatmeal, PB, and milk. about 15-20 minutes after the drink. Tasty.
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    I love WMS compared to dextrose/malto. I don't know if the effects are any better but the overall feeling is much better. What I mean by that is dextrose/malto made me very bloated and put on some belly fat (in my opinion). When I switch to WMS I have no stomach discomfort or bloating sick feeling. I also like the taste of the chalky Kwick Karb instead of the nastily sweet dextrose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    ezekiel bread is truly amazing stuff. i'm an addict.
    I just wish the stuff wasn't so expensive.
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    I don't understand why you would not want to mix this with protein for post-workout. Mixing it with Xtend is the same since Xtend contains BCAAs which are proteins.
    Not being confrontational, I just want to understand the reasoning behind this since I ordered Xtend and CarbSlam from NP and want to make sure I get the best results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I just wish the stuff wasn't so expensive.
    4 bucks a loaf, compared to like 3 and change?...I'll pay the 75 cents to have actual bread in my diet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSurfer View Post
    I don't understand why you would not want to mix this with protein for post-workout. Mixing it with Xtend is the same since Xtend contains BCAAs which are proteins.
    Not being confrontational, I just want to understand the reasoning behind this since I ordered Xtend and CarbSlam from NP and want to make sure I get the best results.

    I believe it has something to do with the digestive times of the two and the timing of the insulin spike the wms has on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSurfer View Post
    I don't understand why you would not want to mix this with protein for post-workout. Mixing it with Xtend is the same since Xtend contains BCAAs which are proteins.
    Not being confrontational, I just want to understand the reasoning behind this since I ordered Xtend and CarbSlam from NP and want to make sure I get the best results.
    Some of the other guys can probably give you a better scientific explanation. However BCAAs is not the same as protein post-workout. Yes, there are BCAAs in the protein but obviously the protein contains a lot more stuff than just the 3 BCAAs.
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    I was under the impression that mixing the waximaize with protein throws off the molecular weight. Is this true or no??
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    would this also be entwined with the drastic improvement of solubility of protein in a WMS solution?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mannypolarbear View Post
    I was under the impression that mixing the waximaize with protein throws off the molecular weight. Is this true or no??
    As the ratio of WMS to "other additions" decreases, so does the osmolarity (slowing down absorption).

    It has been tossed around that you can include approximately 30-40% of the weight without affecting it too much.
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    SO what is the verdict here?? Wxm immediately after workouts and real meal about 45 later?? What about pre?? How soon before working out?
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    IDS waxi is great, good for making ur own pre WO cocktail
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiftNDestroy View Post
    Big fan of Art Attwoods Professional Supplements pure vitargo, but too bad it's not more. Otherwise the kwik karb sounds nice. Stack it with some good old fashioned creatine mono and you'll gain pretty quick!

    his new formula is out. it's called pure velocity. its hydrolyzed waxy maize, glycerol, pyruvate, carbogen, and hydrolyzed rice syrup. it mixes better and even better pumps. i like one scoop mixed with WTF pumped preworkout and two scoops during workout mixed with xtend.
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    im gonna try the wms+2scoops PW immed postWO then a protein shake with my meal 30 min later
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    Go to Trueprotein.com and make your own Waxy Maize custom mix. I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiftNDestroy View Post
    Big fan of Art Attwoods Professional Supplements pure vitargo, but too bad it's not more. Otherwise the kwik karb sounds nice. Stack it with some good old fashioned creatine mono and you'll gain pretty quick!
    me too, i loved Pure Vitargo, he has a new one out now thats even better. iv been using it for 2 months now and its amazing! its called Pure Velocity. i usually get it from his store but there is a website that carries it.
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    wow didnt finish reading before i posted, Pimp C, good stuff. i use the WTF Pumped with the velocity also ...
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    Can anyone help me with this little issue? I need some advice on making a pre/post workout drink while I’m on my cycle of M-drol. I was thinking about buying a mass stack from nutraplanet which consists of Creatine, Arginine and citruline. After reading several post for home made preworkout drinks I have seen people use waxt maize or dex/malto
    I have used NO xplode, Smash, etc before but I don’t want to use thses caffeinated products anymore I would rather make my own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dancebot 2000 View Post
    I can't stand Waxy Maze pre workout. I find it makes me really lazy. You do get a great pump, but I'm too tired to get in a good workout.

    For post workout timing, I do basically exactly what you do NILLA. Protien will just slow the waxy maze down.
    I feel the exact way anytime I take it. It's amazing for after a workout when I am going to eat 20 minutes later but if I'm starving and I drink it straight,I never feel like I ate anything. Pretty neat.

    Yea Sharia. I would NOT use it preworkout. Maybe if you mixed it with some protein or fiber or something it might be slow enough but when I take it with just creatine and water it goes quick. Wouldn't be a good source of energy. I think waxy maize is great but mainly for post workout.
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    its a awesome product but it has a thick taste
    not the best taste.
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