Waxy Maize

Page 1 of 2 12 Last
  1. Registered User
    Nilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    97
    Answers
    0

    Waxy Maize


    What are peoples thoughts on using this to load supps with.
    Also, whats a good brand to buy?

  2. Registered User
    Cellardude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    4,360
    Answers
    0


    there is no "brand" of waxy maize I think. I think there all the same. It's kinda like dextrose, but better pumps so Ive heard.
  3. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    Board Sponsor
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    43
    Posts
    21,306
    Answers
    2


    I find Kwik Karb Waxy Maize to be a VERY potent workout and recovery enhancer.

    There are some discussion threads about stack ideas.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
    •   
       

  4. Registered User
    SureShot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    478
    Answers
    0


    get the nutraplanet kwik karb good stuff if you can get past the kind of chalky taste.
  5. Registered User
    Nilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    97
    Answers
    0


    If i get some this is what i planned on doing with it;


    PREWORKOUT:
    Waximaize
    1 Serving SMASH (Add to smash for better pumps)
    2g Beta Alanine

    IMMEDIATELY POST WORKOUT:
    70g Waxy Maize Starch
    2 Scoops Xtend
    1 Serving CLOUT

    25-30 MINS AFTER WORKOUT
    ~50g Protein

    I just heard some issues with taking it with protien and that it would be better to wait a little before ingesting protien thats why i put the delay in there.
  6. Jet
    Jet is offline
    Registered User
    Jet's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    341
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Nilla View Post
    If i get some this is what i planned on doing with it;


    PREWORKOUT:
    Waximaize
    1 Serving SMASH (Add to smash for better pumps)
    2g Beta Alanine

    IMMEDIATELY POST WORKOUT:
    70g Waxy Maize Starch
    2 Scoops Xtend
    1 Serving CLOUT

    25-30 MINS AFTER WORKOUT
    ~50g Protein

    I just heard some issues with taking it with protien and that it would be better to wait a little before ingesting protien thats why i put the delay in there.
    Glad you brought up the protein issues, I've never heard that before and was planning on taking them together.

    How long before your workout do you drink your WMS?
  7. Registered User
    LiftNDestroy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Age
    35
    Posts
    453
    Answers
    0


    Big fan of Art Attwoods Professional Supplements pure vitargo, but too bad it's not more. Otherwise the kwik karb sounds nice. Stack it with some good old fashioned creatine mono and you'll gain pretty quick!
  8. Running with the Big Boys
    Board Sponsor
    Rodja's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  220 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    23,136
    Answers
    0


    Instead of just protein, have a whole-food meal at that point. The BCAAs and WMS have kickstarted the growth/recovery and eating a solid meal is the best way to sustain.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys
  9. Registered User
    ManInTheBox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    239
    Answers
    0


    i don't think there is any issue with WMS and protein. if anything the WMS will only increase absorption...i am not totally sure though. I have gotten SICK pumps off of a caffeine and WMS stack. I am not even sure if i will ever use a nitric oxide product again...I combine ergo AMP with my waximaize by IDS...loooove it.
  10. Registered User
    Dancebot 2000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    934
    Answers
    0


    I can't stand Waxy Maze pre workout. I find it makes me really lazy. You do get a great pump, but I'm too tired to get in a good workout.

    For post workout timing, I do basically exactly what you do NILLA. Protien will just slow the waxy maze down.
  11. Registered User
    The_Reverend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Age
    37
    Posts
    892
    Answers
    0


    My preworkout mix includes a p-slin and about 90g of waxy maize from true protein and 5g of creatine monohydrate. This has to be the best preworkout formula I've ever tried. Crazy pumps and plenty of energy.
  12. Registered User
    LiftNDestroy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Age
    35
    Posts
    453
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by ManInTheBox View Post
    i don't think there is any issue with WMS and protein. if anything the WMS will only increase absorption...i am not totally sure though. I have gotten SICK pumps off of a caffeine and WMS stack. I am not even sure if i will ever use a nitric oxide product again...I combine ergo AMP with my waximaize by IDS...loooove it.
    The IDS waximaize tastes good but damn if that wasn't the messiest powder I've ever used. Almost impossible to mix without getting it all over the place. Otherwise the only ids product I'll ever touch.
  13. Registered User
    PumpingIron's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    4,690
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Instead of just protein, have a whole-food meal at that point. The BCAAs and WMS have kickstarted the growth/recovery and eating a solid meal is the best way to sustain.
    Great Post. A real meal is a necessity post training, no matter what your goal.

    ...but, especially if your goal is to be awesome.
  14. Recovering AXoholic
    Board Sponsor
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    Great Post. A real meal is a necessity post training, no matter what your goal.

    ...but, especially if your goal is to be awesome.
    What would you recommend for someone whose goal is to NOT be awesome?
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  15. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    Board Sponsor
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    43
    Posts
    21,306
    Answers
    2


    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    What would you recommend for someone whose goal is to NOT be awesome?
    Go check Thesinner's log, and copy his routines exactly.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
  16. Registered User
    PumpingIron's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    4,690
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Go check Thesinner's log, and copy his routines exactly.
    I like what you did here.
  17. Recovering AXoholic
    Board Sponsor
    thesinner's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Age
    28
    Posts
    10,063
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Go check Thesinner's log, and copy his routines exactly.
    Perfect! That's actually what I'm doing already. Looks like I'm on the right track (to anti-awesomeness).
    Athletic Xtreme Rep
    Bob@athleticxtreme.com
    IFFI
    Ask me about the Athletic Xtreme Product Line
  18. Registered User
    Irish Cannon's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"   lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Age
    27
    Posts
    12,615
    Answers
    0


    I've been using Carb Slam from Primaforce for the last 6-8 weeks. It's definitely good for a bulk, but I don't recommend it while cutting. I've put on some serious weight in this time frame, but a noticeable amount of fat as well.

    You do get great pumps while using WMS. Far better than any other pre-workout shotgun mix. I've been mixing 70g of WMS with 70g Whey and 5g CEE pre and post workout, then I have a whole meal an hour after the postWO drink.

    When I start cutting, I think I'll just switch to some oatmeal and ezekiel bread.
  19. Registered User
    PumpingIron's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    4,690
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    I've been using Carb Slam from Primaforce for the last 6-8 weeks. It's definitely good for a bulk, but I don't recommend it while cutting. I've put on some serious weight in this time frame, but a noticeable amount of fat as well.

    You do get great pumps while using WMS. Far better than any other pre-workout shotgun mix. I've been mixing 70g of WMS with 70g Whey and 5g CEE pre and post workout, then I have a whole meal an hour after the postWO drink.

    When I start cutting, I think I'll just switch to some oatmeal and ezekiel bread.
    ezekiel bread is truly amazing stuff. i'm an addict.
  20. Gold Member
    Big BAMA's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  228 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    2,409
    Answers
    0


    I mix Waxy Maize ( custom True Protein Mix ), Dextrose, BCAA's, and Creatine. for my post workout drink. Then a protein shake with oatmeal, PB, and milk. about 15-20 minutes after the drink. Tasty.
  21. Registered User
    TheNinja's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  185 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    1,028
    Answers
    0


    I love WMS compared to dextrose/malto. I don't know if the effects are any better but the overall feeling is much better. What I mean by that is dextrose/malto made me very bloated and put on some belly fat (in my opinion). When I switch to WMS I have no stomach discomfort or bloating sick feeling. I also like the taste of the chalky Kwick Karb instead of the nastily sweet dextrose.
  22. Running with the Big Boys
    Board Sponsor
    Rodja's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  220 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    23,136
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    ezekiel bread is truly amazing stuff. i'm an addict.
    I just wish the stuff wasn't so expensive.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys
  23. Registered User
    silverSurfer's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  175 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Age
    43
    Posts
    1,930
    Answers
    0


    I don't understand why you would not want to mix this with protein for post-workout. Mixing it with Xtend is the same since Xtend contains BCAAs which are proteins.
    Not being confrontational, I just want to understand the reasoning behind this since I ordered Xtend and CarbSlam from NP and want to make sure I get the best results.
  24. Registered User
    PumpingIron's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    4,690
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I just wish the stuff wasn't so expensive.
    4 bucks a loaf, compared to like 3 and change?...I'll pay the 75 cents to have actual bread in my diet...
  25. Registered User
    Nilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    97
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by silverSurfer View Post
    I don't understand why you would not want to mix this with protein for post-workout. Mixing it with Xtend is the same since Xtend contains BCAAs which are proteins.
    Not being confrontational, I just want to understand the reasoning behind this since I ordered Xtend and CarbSlam from NP and want to make sure I get the best results.

    I believe it has something to do with the digestive times of the two and the timing of the insulin spike the wms has on you.
  26. Registered User
    TheNinja's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  185 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    1,028
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by silverSurfer View Post
    I don't understand why you would not want to mix this with protein for post-workout. Mixing it with Xtend is the same since Xtend contains BCAAs which are proteins.
    Not being confrontational, I just want to understand the reasoning behind this since I ordered Xtend and CarbSlam from NP and want to make sure I get the best results.
    Some of the other guys can probably give you a better scientific explanation. However BCAAs is not the same as protein post-workout. Yes, there are BCAAs in the protein but obviously the protein contains a lot more stuff than just the 3 BCAAs.
  27. Registered User
    Mannypolarbear's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Age
    27
    Posts
    70
    Answers
    0


    I was under the impression that mixing the waximaize with protein throws off the molecular weight. Is this true or no??
  28. Registered User
    MOHAWKA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Age
    26
    Posts
    113
    Answers
    0


    would this also be entwined with the drastic improvement of solubility of protein in a WMS solution?
  29. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    Board Sponsor
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    43
    Posts
    21,306
    Answers
    2


    Quote Originally Posted by Mannypolarbear View Post
    I was under the impression that mixing the waximaize with protein throws off the molecular weight. Is this true or no??
    As the ratio of WMS to "other additions" decreases, so does the osmolarity (slowing down absorption).

    It has been tossed around that you can include approximately 30-40% of the weight without affecting it too much.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
  30. Registered User
    Mannypolarbear's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Age
    27
    Posts
    70
    Answers
    0


    SO what is the verdict here?? Wxm immediately after workouts and real meal about 45 later?? What about pre?? How soon before working out?
  31. Registered User
    yeashescool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    34
    Answers
    0


    IDS waxi is great, good for making ur own pre WO cocktail
  32. Registered User
    Pimp C's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    226
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by LiftNDestroy View Post
    Big fan of Art Attwoods Professional Supplements pure vitargo, but too bad it's not more. Otherwise the kwik karb sounds nice. Stack it with some good old fashioned creatine mono and you'll gain pretty quick!

    his new formula is out. it's called pure velocity. its hydrolyzed waxy maize, glycerol, pyruvate, carbogen, and hydrolyzed rice syrup. it mixes better and even better pumps. i like one scoop mixed with WTF pumped preworkout and two scoops during workout mixed with xtend.
  33. Registered User
    MOHAWKA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Age
    26
    Posts
    113
    Answers
    0


    im gonna try the wms+2scoops PW immed postWO then a protein shake with my meal 30 min later
  34. Gold Member
    Big BAMA's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  228 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    2,409
    Answers
    0


    Go to Trueprotein.com and make your own Waxy Maize custom mix. I do.
  35. Registered User
    sportsbro21's Avatar
    Stats
    6'3"   lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    486
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by LiftNDestroy View Post
    Big fan of Art Attwoods Professional Supplements pure vitargo, but too bad it's not more. Otherwise the kwik karb sounds nice. Stack it with some good old fashioned creatine mono and you'll gain pretty quick!
    me too, i loved Pure Vitargo, he has a new one out now thats even better. iv been using it for 2 months now and its amazing! its called Pure Velocity. i usually get it from his store but there is a website that carries it.
    NUTRAPLANET! you should carry it too!
  36. Registered User
    sportsbro21's Avatar
    Stats
    6'3"   lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    486
    Answers
    0


    wow didnt finish reading before i posted, Pimp C, good stuff. i use the WTF Pumped with the velocity also ...
  37. Registered User
    Sharia's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    146
    Answers
    0


    Can anyone help me with this little issue? I need some advice on making a pre/post workout drink while I’m on my cycle of M-drol. I was thinking about buying a mass stack from nutraplanet which consists of Creatine, Arginine and citruline. After reading several post for home made preworkout drinks I have seen people use waxt maize or dex/malto
    I have used NO xplode, Smash, etc before but I don’t want to use thses caffeinated products anymore I would rather make my own.
  38. Registered User
    planetfuzz's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  165 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Age
    28
    Posts
    888
    Answers
    0


    Quote Originally Posted by Dancebot 2000 View Post
    I can't stand Waxy Maze pre workout. I find it makes me really lazy. You do get a great pump, but I'm too tired to get in a good workout.

    For post workout timing, I do basically exactly what you do NILLA. Protien will just slow the waxy maze down.
    I feel the exact way anytime I take it. It's amazing for after a workout when I am going to eat 20 minutes later but if I'm starving and I drink it straight,I never feel like I ate anything. Pretty neat.

    Yea Sharia. I would NOT use it preworkout. Maybe if you mixed it with some protein or fiber or something it might be slow enough but when I take it with just creatine and water it goes quick. Wouldn't be a good source of energy. I think waxy maize is great but mainly for post workout.
  39. Registered User
    polo's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  172 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    166
    Answers
    0


    its a awesome product but it has a thick taste
    not the best taste.
  40. Registered User
    planetfuzz's Avatar
    Stats
    5'11"  165 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Age
    28
    Posts
    888
    Answers
    0


    Yea...I got the Strawberry Kiwi Flavor from TP and it's not half bad really.
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Waxy Maize Starch Craze
    By Mach .78 in forum Nutrition / Health
    Replies: 69
    Last Post: 04-07-2007, 06:21 PM
  2. Waxy Maize Starch
    By IRISHRYG in forum Nutraplanet
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 11-07-2006, 03:55 PM
  3. Bobo and anyone else's opinion on Waxy Maize PWO?
    By glenihan in forum Nutrition / Health
    Replies: 80
    Last Post: 11-04-2006, 04:51 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in