[Grimmy]

Originally Posted by Matt Skiba

One thing that scares me about dermacrine sustain is getting the stuff onto someone I'm getting close with. The label says to not be too close to women or little children.
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Why would your private be so close to a child? I just emailed the coppers about you.

[Primordial Perf]

Originally Posted by Matt Skiba

One thing that scares me about dermacrine sustain is getting the stuff onto someone I'm getting close with. The label says to not be too close to women or little children.

So man you oughta be careful or she just might turn into a man!

I'm also curious about the scrotal application procedure, the label says to keep the product away from the genitals. I wonder what the reason behind this is and if there's any possible negative side effects from rubbing it on your privates.

But if it works better for post cycle therapy purposes I am definitely interested.

I also have a question of whether it would be safe to use dermacrine sustain along with an oral resveratrol source such as in post cycle support. I remember the first time I ever applied dermacrine sustain I kinda misread the dosage and applied just a bit more than what the instructions say and I ended up feeling super hyper with a rapid pulse, I was even a bit jittery.

Transfer is really only a concern with the Dermacrine because of the DHEA. There have been a couple documented reports of very small children having early sexual maturity from the rub off of Androgel and other pro-hormone creams so we wanted to cover our bases here and give warning. It’s just a liability thing

Practically speaking there is really nothing to be concerned about with passive transfer of either product to a women. Remember, lots of older women supplement with DHEA. (unless she is pregnant or nursing, because again, the DHEA could interfere with a young child’s sexual development)

As far as the application area… well…. I suppose our application graph needs some updating….

-Pp

[Matt Skiba]

Originally Posted by Grimmy

Why would your private be so close to a child? I just emailed the coppers about you.

Haha I didn't mean it like THAT

[Red Dog]

Originally Posted by Force of Green

Why is Dermacrine Sustain a SERM imitator? Although the ingredients aren't some synthetic chemical created in a laboratory, it doesn't mean that it's not a SERM. It is a natural substance that has selective estrogen receptor modulation properties. It's not an imposter.

I love Dermacrine Sustain. I started rubbing it on my sac about a week ago, my ballies are definitely bigger than usual! I've been done with Epistane for about a month now and I've been using Drive, Sustain, Torem, and Retain 2 as the foundation for post cycle therapy... the torem is a really low dose. My energy levels are naturally through the roof, my nuts are huge and my voice is actually deeper... someone commented on that.

Just a hypothetical question, but whats your opinion as to whether derm sustain would be effective at hpta stimulation if not coupled with a traditional serm? could it not ultimately accomplish what nolva or torem could over an undetermined period of time at possibly a higher dose? Just curious as to you guys' thoughts about such a process

[Force of Green]

Originally Posted by Red Dog

Just a hypothetical question, but whats your opinion as to whether derm sustain would be effective at hpta stimulation if not coupled with a traditional serm? could it not ultimately accomplish what nolva or torem could over an undetermined period of time at possibly a higher dose? Just curious as to you guys' thoughts about such a process

In my opinion, I think that a 5 pump dose of Dermacrine Sustain twice a day would be sufficient to get the HPTA coming back after almost any moderate cycle. Torem has been shown to be safe, relatively low toxicity and low/no sides in breast cancer treatment, but the resveratrol studies keep coming out with all these new benefits, etc. Amazing stuff.

[Primordial Perf]

Originally Posted by Red Dog

Just a hypothetical question, but whats your opinion as to whether derm sustain would be effective at hpta stimulation if not coupled with a traditional serm? could it not ultimately accomplish what nolva or torem could over an undetermined period of time at possibly a higher dose? Just curious as to you guys' thoughts about such a process

We really feel that a full dose of Derma Sustain is equaly effective as a standard dose of Clomid/nolva/torm for bringing back T levels. Plus guys report a vigorous sex drive and enhanced sexual performance across the charts with Derma Sustain. (increased hardness, ejaculatory volume, sensitivity, ect)

Even if standard SERMs are marginally more effective, you are still saving yourself from the toxic effects from these drugs, while actually enhancing your overall health with resveratrol and benzoflavone.

-Pp

[Pharaoh7]

Will you guys be getting some more suppliers for dermacrine sustain?

I think I speak for more then one person when I say that'd I'd be one of the first guys to pick some up when it gets on nutra.

[Primordial Perf]

Originally Posted by Pharaoh7

Will you guys be getting some more suppliers for dermacrine sustain?

I think I speak for more then one person when I say that'd I'd be one of the first guys to pick some up when it gets on nutra.

Weve been working with distributors in other countries but have so far decided to stay away from US distributors. Customer service is a #1 priority for us, and we feel that we best represent our own products and prefer to have direct relation with our customers.

-Pp

[T-Bone]

Originally Posted by Primordial Perf

We really feel that a full dose of Derma Sustain is equaly effective as a standard dose of Clomid/nolva/torm for bringing back T levels. Plus guys report a vigorous sex drive and enhanced sexual performance across the charts with Derma Sustain. (increased hardness, ejaculatory volume, sensitivity, ect)

Even if standard SERMs are marginally more effective, you are still saving yourself from the toxic effects from these drugs, while actually enhancing your overall health with resveratrol and benzoflavone.

-Pp

You should start your own thread about this. A lot of guys on here are pretty stuborn about using a standard SERM.

[Red Dog]

Agreed with Tbone.. I've always been questionable about the true authenticity of those chemicals in addition to the toxic effects they carry

[CROWLER]

This is EXACTLY why I had The Sinner design POST Cycle Support. No worries with the toxicity or the legal ramifications.


CROWLER

[T-Bone]

Originally Posted by CROWLER

This is EXACTLY why I had The Sinner design POST Cycle Support. No worries with the toxicity or the legal ramifications.


CROWLER

Don't be afraid to start a thread than about using it in place of the traditional SERM. Seems so many people on here think that a SERM is the only choice and they have to type SERM in all capitals!. I don't believe a serm is the only choice and post cycle threapy is a fairly new concept. Having a product in place of an illegal presciption drug used from breast cancer patients is an excellent idea. I support both Annabolic Innovations and Primordial Performance for coming out with safe effective products to use in place of their illegal toxic counterparts.

[CROWLER]

Thanks you for the suggestion you are right we should.

Actually PA said Trans-Resveratrol, an ingredient in POST Cycle Support and Dermastain, is a SERM


CROWLER

[Skircus7]

Anabolic Innovations and/or Primordial Perf should sponsor someone to use their product as the only supplement (other than the basics) in post cycle therapy, and have bloodwork done at the end. That will show us all how well they work