Ok, so I have been taking Drive for about 2.5 weeks now and I have to say that I am getting strength gains like no other, I mean VERY similar to the real anabolics. I was doing 6 a day for the first 2 week, felt no strength gains at all, just more sweating. So I decided to up the dose to 9 (3x3) and as soo as I did that, my strength went through the roof! I am not kidding when I say the strength gain is very close to real anabolic strength. I went from doing 70lbs x 12 on tricep pushdowns up to 130lbs x 12, it is unreal. I know 9 is not the most economical for most, but for me it is well worht my bottle going a little faster, the difference is night and day! I call it Extreme DRIVEing!