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Modified NHA: ATD + X-Lean + Activate

DCbuilder

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I love Powerfull (actually never had to try the new run as I still have multiple bottles of the old stuff). I started another run of it a the beginning of this month. I also just stopped a cycle of Lean Xtreme.

I still have some old Giant brand ATD (3 bottles) and some DS Activate (not the new Xtreme, just the regular) and some IBE X-Lean.

I also have a bottle of Rebound Reloaded. What I'm wondering is, do you think ATD + Activate + X-Lean would make for a good "revised NHA stack" (RR+Activate+LX)?

I want to make some use out of this ATD, and remember running a NHA stack w/ it over a year or two ago and really liked the results. This was prior to RR even coming out.

Thinking back, though, I can't remember the doses. I think I took 2 or 3 caps of ATD per day (50 or 75 mg total), and I think I took all of it in the evening w/ a fatty meal. I took 4 caps of Activate spread out throughout the day.

Are those still the recommended way to take these? Do you think I should start w/ 50 mg of ATD and go up to 75 only if I want to?

Lastly, I haven't seen much on IBE's X-Lean posted. Is the recommended dosage still as it says on the bottle (Take 1 capsule twice daily; once in the morning and once in the afternoon)? With or without food? I heard something about mega-dosing it, but I think I would probably start w/ the standard dose.

I'm planning on starting such a stack at the end of October. Any thoughts/answers/help would be appreciated.
 
DCbuilder said:
I love Powerfull (actually never had to try the new run as I still have multiple bottles of the old stuff). I started another run of it a the beginning of this month. I also just stopped a cycle of Lean Xtreme.

I still have some old Giant brand ATD (3 bottles) and some DS Activate (not the new Xtreme, just the regular) and some IBE X-Lean.

I also have a bottle of Rebound Reloaded. What I'm wondering is, do you think ATD + Activate + X-Lean would make for a good "revised NHA stack" (RR+Activate+LX)?

I want to make some use out of this ATD, and remember running a NHA stack w/ it over a year or two ago and really liked the results. This was prior to RR even coming out.

Thinking back, though, I can't remember the doses. I think I took 2 or 3 caps of ATD per day (50 or 75 mg total), and I think I took all of it in the evening w/ a fatty meal. I took 4 caps of Activate spread out throughout the day.

Are those still the recommended way to take these? Do you think I should start w/ 50 mg of ATD and go up to 75 only if I want to?

Lastly, I haven't seen much on IBE's X-Lean posted. Is the recommended dosage still as it says on the bottle (Take 1 capsule twice daily; once in the morning and once in the afternoon)? With or without food? I heard something about mega-dosing it, but I think I would probably start w/ the standard dose.

I'm planning on starting such a stack at the end of October. Any thoughts/answers/help would be appreciated.
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Increased test from Activate should help balance out the sides from ATD. I wouldnt mind running that stack.
 
I think you would be better to switch the ATD to Formestane, ATD have to many sides...

Edit: Sorry didn't see u already have the ATD... ;)
 
tgass said:
I think you would be better to switch the ATD to Formestane, ATD have to many sides...

Edit: Sorry didn't see u already have the ATD... ;)
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Yea, that's the main reason I want to use it is that I already have it. I've used it before and didn't experience too much a crush to libido. What are the other suspected sides?

As for Form, I understand topical is the way to go, and I've read all the threads about E-form vs. Abliderate+Form from Nutra. I'll probably try that out next. What are the negative sides from that?
 
DCbuilder said:
What I'm wondering is, do you think ATD + Activate + X-Lean would make for a good "revised NHA stack" (RR+Activate+LX)?
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Yes, I do. You have all the components there to free-up test, increase test and control cortisol. It should work nicely as long as you're not one of the people who is too sensitive to ATD.
 
yeahright said:
Yes, I do. You have all the components there to free-up test, increase test and control cortisol. It should work nicely as long as you're not one of the people who is too sensitive to ATD.
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What happens if you are too sensitive? Is it just a libido crush or are there other problems?

I don't think I fall into that category as I've used Giant ATD and Rebound XT and had no problems...

What's the recommended dose, if you know? 50 mg each night or 75?

Thanks - reps given.
 
Low libido, lethargy and joint pain are the common sides with sensativity to ATD. Optimum dosage could be anywhere from 25-75mg /day as it's pretty effective at doing what it does. You'll have to play around a little to find the dose appropriate for you but starting at 50mg and seeing what you get is a good start(it could be all you need).
 
prld2gr8ns said:
Low libido, lethargy and joint pain are the common sides with sensativity to ATD. Optimum dosage could be anywhere from 25-75mg /day as it's pretty effective at doing what it does. You'll have to play around a little to find the dose appropriate for you but starting at 50mg and seeing what you get is a good start(it could be all you need).
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I concur with this other than I'd suggest starting at 25mg.
 
I have found ATD to be effective at 25mg EOD and increasing libido rather than crushing it. It is indeed very strong.
 
DCbuilder said:
By using the word "starting", are you suggesting increasing and then perhaps decreasing?

Something like 25 for a week, 50 for 2, then 25 for 1?
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ATD is pretty powerful. I never take more than 25mg myself. Sometimes just 25 mg every other day. Figure out how it effects you and dose accordingly.
 
I think I'll give this stack a try starting this weekend. I'll maybe do 25mg ATD for 3 days and then step to 50mg and see how that goes. I'll give a few updates and if you have any comments/questions, feel free to post them. Thanks for the help.
 
Glad I found this thread. Let us know how your cycle is going, I'm about to start something similar.

I have some Powerfull, Activate Ex, Lean Extreme and transdermal ATD that I was just about to throw together for a 4-6 weeker.

I'm looking for my Bulk DHEA to throw in the transdermal. Only thing that I don't like is double dipping with the 7-oh and the DHEA. I ran an ATD/DHEA transdermal with 7-OH for a short time which saw great results before my shoulder went to ****, possibly from killing estrogen and cortisol. First time I've had to many options in supps to take.
 
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