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Old 10-12-2007, 05:42 AM   #1
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loss of sex drive after PH, even though took rebound, can I fix?

Its been about a year since I took my 2nd and last cycle of prohormone, and although I took my rebound at the proper dosage, I feel that my sex drive hasn't been the same. The Rebound reloaded was combined with JW for the postcycle. I'm only 22 and I've used Cialis. I'm curious if this late in the game I could still possibly run another post-cycle to clean? things up and hopefully restore the sex drive?
 
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For the first time I,ve tried methylATD (AX PCT) and my libido fly high....
With the "normal" ATD I lost my "sex power", ATD act as a SARM and block the ARs on hypotalamus killing your libido....I dunno if 6 bromo (RR) act in the same way...

I think the mATD act like a ARs agonist, I feel like i'm on cycle...
Have you any bloodwork after the use of methylATD?
Sorry for the OT.

@Beefjerky: JW is a prosteroid, if you search for feedbacks on JW stand alone you can see it shut down your HPTA....and the 6 bromo in RR (the alfa isomer) can be converted in 6bromotestosterone.....
Try to shift to tamoxy or, better, toremifene...to enanche libido try little dose of mestanolone (methyl dht) or mesterolone (proviron). They no shut you down, I've tried on myself....
 
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I don't like JW, and I don't want to run prohormones again. I was also using nolva 40/30/20/10 I believe.
I dont want to have to run supplements the rest of my life to get my drive back, I just want to restore it to normal.
I have not run bloodwork since being completely clean.
 
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I don't like JW, and I don't want to run prohormones again. I was also using nolva 40/30/20/10 I believe.
I dont want to have to run supplements the rest of my life to get my drive back, I just want to restore it to normal.
I have not run bloodwork since being completely clean.
You have run JW and RR for PCT right?
Try to run only nolva again at 20mg for the first 2 weeks, 10mg for another 2 weeks and 10mg eod for the last week....small doses of ATD can help you, like 25mg ATD ED or eod...
What your problem with libido? Do you can't stay "rock hard" or have you lost interest for the "pussy"?
 
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You have run JW and RR for post cycle therapy right?
Try to run only nolva again at 20mg for the first 2 weeks, 10mg for another 2 weeks and 10mg eod for the last week....small doses of ATD can help you, like 25mg ATD ED or eod...
What your problem with libido? Do you can't stay "rock hard" or have you lost interest for the "pussy"?
Pretty sure ATD is a libido killer, so I'd avoid that. I agree with running Nolva again and see if that helps.
 



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Its been about a year since I took my 2nd and last cycle of prohormone, and although I took my rebound at the proper dosage, I feel that my sex drive hasn't been the same. The Rebound reloaded was combined with JW for the postcycle. I'm only 22 and I've used Cialis. I'm curious if this late in the game I could still possibly run another post-cycle to clean? things up and hopefully restore the sex drive?
What ph did you take out of curiosity? This is a tough situation to give advice on. Also I'm confused on when you ran the Nolvadex. Was it after the origional pct? If so (meaning if you ran a serm after the RR/JW), you may be a candidate for TRT, sorry friend. However, you probrably have some options before you go that route.
 
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I've never understood why some guys (very few) don't rebound after a AAS or prohormone cycle. They just permanently stay with low test. That shlt is freaky.
 
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Originally Posted by antodrol
For the first time I,ve tried methylATD (AX post cycle therapy) and my libido fly high....
With the "normal" ATD I lost my "sex power", ATD act as a SARM and block the ARs on hypotalamus killing your libido....I dunno if 6 bromo (RR) act in the same way...

I think the mATD act like a ARs agonist, I feel like i'm on cycle...
Have you any bloodwork after the use of methylATD?
Sorry for the OT.

@Beefjerky: JW is a prosteroid, if you search for feedbacks on JW stand alone you can see it shut down your HPTA....and the 6 bromo in RR (the alfa isomer) can be converted in 6bromotestosterone.....
Try to shift to tamoxy or, better, toremifene...to enanche libido try little dose of mestanolone (methyl dht) or mesterolone (proviron). They no shut you down, I've tried on myself....
6-bromo can attach to AR's (at a very low affinity), but will give off an androgenic effect when it does so.

I agree with your suggestions. Get some toremifene and you're libido will be back up in no time.

In the meantime, drop the cialis. It does not enhance your libido, it inhibits PDE-5, allowing you to have an erection when you get horny. (will do nothing if you can't get "turned on" first.)
 



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Regardless, get some Drive in ASAP. There's quite a few logs of Drive used in PCT specifically to bring libido back up.... all successful thus far.
 



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lol, shameless plug.

How about Drive + PCS? You'll get a double whammy with the star-complex + PCS complex.
 



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lol, shameless plug.

How about Drive + PCS? You'll get a double whammy with the star-complex + PCS complex.
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I know everyone reacts different to everything. But I've never understood why one wouldn't always take a SERM regardless of if it's AAS or PHs. Just for the simple reason of this guys solution. To me, bouncing back is the most important part of a cycle. You don't have that, you may not have anything

Also, I have seen a lot of PHs shut people down harder than actual AAS.

Like stated above, grab some toremifene, and if you want, maybe something like DRIVE (haven't tried it yet, but will be soon. I've heard GREAT things).
 
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I don't doubt it. Drive is very solid, and nicely formulated. But if I didn't give you a hard time, I wouldn't be doing my job as the mayor maker of banananess. I might get fired. And getting fired by TripDog would be the lowest of all lows...it's worse than getting fired from McDonald's or something.
 



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lol, shameless plug.

How about Drive + PCS? You'll get a double whammy with the star-complex + PCS complex.
Sounds like a hard stack to beat...
 
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Its been about a year since I took my 2nd and last cycle of prohormone, and although I took my rebound at the proper dosage, I feel that my sex drive hasn't been the same. The Rebound reloaded was combined with JW for the postcycle. I'm only 22 and I've used Cialis. I'm curious if this late in the game I could still possibly run another post-cycle to clean? things up and hopefully restore the sex drive?
Run another cycle, then go with Toremifene for PCT and all should be well
 



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