loss of sex drive after PH, even though took rebound, can I fix?

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Its been about a year since I took my 2nd and last cycle of prohormone, and although I took my rebound at the proper dosage, I feel that my sex drive hasn't been the same. The Rebound reloaded was combined with JW for the postcycle. I'm only 22 and I've used Cialis. I'm curious if this late in the game I could still possibly run another post-cycle to clean? things up and hopefully restore the sex drive?
 
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For the first time I,ve tried methylATD (AX PCT) and my libido fly high....
With the "normal" ATD I lost my "sex power", ATD act as a SARM and block the ARs on hypotalamus killing your libido....I dunno if 6 bromo (RR) act in the same way...

I think the mATD act like a ARs agonist, I feel like i'm on cycle...
Have you any bloodwork after the use of methylATD?
Sorry for the OT.

@Beefjerky: JW is a prosteroid, if you search for feedbacks on JW stand alone you can see it shut down your HPTA....and the 6 bromo in RR (the alfa isomer) can be converted in 6bromotestosterone.....
Try to shift to tamoxy or, better, toremifene...to enanche libido try little dose of mestanolone (methyl dht) or mesterolone (proviron). They no shut you down, I've tried on myself....
 

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I don't like JW, and I don't want to run prohormones again. I was also using nolva 40/30/20/10 I believe.
I dont want to have to run supplements the rest of my life to get my drive back, I just want to restore it to normal.
I have not run bloodwork since being completely clean.
 
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I don't like JW, and I don't want to run prohormones again. I was also using nolva 40/30/20/10 I believe.
I dont want to have to run supplements the rest of my life to get my drive back, I just want to restore it to normal.
I have not run bloodwork since being completely clean.
You have run JW and RR for PCT right?
Try to run only nolva again at 20mg for the first 2 weeks, 10mg for another 2 weeks and 10mg eod for the last week....small doses of ATD can help you, like 25mg ATD ED or eod...
What your problem with libido? Do you can't stay "rock hard" or have you lost interest for the "pussy"?
 
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You have run JW and RR for post cycle therapy right?
Try to run only nolva again at 20mg for the first 2 weeks, 10mg for another 2 weeks and 10mg eod for the last week....small doses of ATD can help you, like 25mg ATD ED or eod...
What your problem with libido? Do you can't stay "rock hard" or have you lost interest for the "pussy"?
Pretty sure ATD is a libido killer, so I'd avoid that. I agree with running Nolva again and see if that helps.
 
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Its been about a year since I took my 2nd and last cycle of prohormone, and although I took my rebound at the proper dosage, I feel that my sex drive hasn't been the same. The Rebound reloaded was combined with JW for the postcycle. I'm only 22 and I've used Cialis. I'm curious if this late in the game I could still possibly run another post-cycle to clean? things up and hopefully restore the sex drive?
What ph did you take out of curiosity? This is a tough situation to give advice on. Also I'm confused on when you ran the Nolvadex. Was it after the origional pct? If so (meaning if you ran a serm after the RR/JW), you may be a candidate for TRT, sorry friend. However, you probrably have some options before you go that route.
 

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I've never understood why some guys (very few) don't rebound after a AAS or prohormone cycle. They just permanently stay with low test. That shlt is freaky.
 
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For the first time I,ve tried methylATD (AX post cycle therapy) and my libido fly high....
With the "normal" ATD I lost my "sex power", ATD act as a SARM and block the ARs on hypotalamus killing your libido....I dunno if 6 bromo (RR) act in the same way...

I think the mATD act like a ARs agonist, I feel like i'm on cycle...
Have you any bloodwork after the use of methylATD?
Sorry for the OT.

@Beefjerky: JW is a prosteroid, if you search for feedbacks on JW stand alone you can see it shut down your HPTA....and the 6 bromo in RR (the alfa isomer) can be converted in 6bromotestosterone.....
Try to shift to tamoxy or, better, toremifene...to enanche libido try little dose of mestanolone (methyl dht) or mesterolone (proviron). They no shut you down, I've tried on myself....
6-bromo can attach to AR's (at a very low affinity), but will give off an androgenic effect when it does so.

I agree with your suggestions. Get some toremifene and you're libido will be back up in no time.

In the meantime, drop the cialis. It does not enhance your libido, it inhibits PDE-5, allowing you to have an erection when you get horny. (will do nothing if you can't get "turned on" first.)
 
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Regardless, get some Drive in ASAP. There's quite a few logs of Drive used in PCT specifically to bring libido back up.... all successful thus far.
 
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lol, shameless plug. :thumbsup:

How about Drive + PCS? You'll get a double whammy with the star-complex + PCS complex. ;)
 
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I know everyone reacts different to everything. But I've never understood why one wouldn't always take a SERM regardless of if it's AAS or PHs. Just for the simple reason of this guys solution. To me, bouncing back is the most important part of a cycle. You don't have that, you may not have anything

Also, I have seen a lot of PHs shut people down harder than actual AAS.

Like stated above, grab some toremifene, and if you want, maybe something like DRIVE (haven't tried it yet, but will be soon. I've heard GREAT things).
 
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I only speak the truth my sinning friend.
I don't doubt it. Drive is very solid, and nicely formulated. But if I didn't give you a hard time, I wouldn't be doing my job as the mayor maker of banananess. I might get fired. And getting fired by TripDog would be the lowest of all lows...it's worse than getting fired from McDonald's or something.
 
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Its been about a year since I took my 2nd and last cycle of prohormone, and although I took my rebound at the proper dosage, I feel that my sex drive hasn't been the same. The Rebound reloaded was combined with JW for the postcycle. I'm only 22 and I've used Cialis. I'm curious if this late in the game I could still possibly run another post-cycle to clean? things up and hopefully restore the sex drive?
Run another cycle, then go with Toremifene for PCT and all should be well :)
 
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I don't doubt it. Drive is very solid, and nicely formulated. But if I didn't give you a hard time, I wouldn't be doing my job as the mayor maker of banananess. I might get fired. And getting fired by TripDog would be the lowest of all lows...it's worse than getting fired from McDonald's or something.
Damn, that would be a good stack :)
 
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Run another cycle, then go with Toremifene for post cycle therapy and all should be well :)
Yeah bro, that sounds like an awesome idea


seriously though, dont run another cycle. It is fine if you want to continie PCT just use something other than ATD like clomid or toremifene. Only use cialis when you need it. Time is really the only thing that is gonna actually get your libido back. Until then try tribulus or something like Coq Diesel or Drive.
 

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Korean panax ginseng helps raise your natural test production a little bit and it really helped me when i started to take lexapro which killed my sex drive
 
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are we forgetting about powerfull? torm did wonders for me. I had to run it twice after a superdrol and pp cycle. Torm works!! Get some!
 
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u can find it on other sites old ax products still around look for thier old PCT
 

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I took pheraplex both times.

Here is my entire schedule in jpg format.

No, I would not ever consider running another cycle.

In reference to the sex drive, I cannot maintain a hardon for very long during sex, as in the time it takes to grab and apply a rubber its very easy for me to be done for.

So what I'm looking for here is a way to get my body to start fully producing test and I don't want to have to supplement it the rest of my life. I took the cialis, because, well, wouldn't that suck to not be the rock at 22?
 
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I took pheraplex both times.

Here is my entire schedule in jpg format.

No, I would not ever consider running another cycle.

In reference to the sex drive, I cannot maintain a hardon for very long during sex, as in the time it takes to grab and apply a rubber its very easy for me to be done for.

So what I'm looking for here is a way to get my body to start fully producing test and I don't want to have to supplement it the rest of my life. I took the cialis, because, well, wouldn't that suck to not be the rock at 22?
There are a number of factors that could cause your libido to be low. It is not dependent on whether you are producing test or not. You could have made a full recovery and still have low libido for some other reason. The only thing you can do is try some of the suggestions already mentioned and hope one works. It will come back once your body returns to homeostasis. Just give it time bro.
 

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Ok, so I've heard a couple of options...
toremifene, nolva, 6oxo.
What do you all think?
 
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Ok, so I've heard a couple of options...
toremifene, nolva, 6oxo.
What do you all think?
It doesn't appear that you ever ran a proper post cycle therapy.

Also keep in mind that sometimes you do have to repeat a complete post cycle therapy protocol to feel fully restored. There is nothing harmful in running a PCT again.

In my opinion you should look to what has proven to work time and time again for a lot of serious steroid users. Based off of Pheendo's fine research many many years ago an approach involving two SERMs w/ different modes of action and an AI should work well.

His protocol involved using Clomid concurrent w/ low dose Nolva plus Aromasin.

Chaos has updated the approach with the use of better SERMS. He has replaced Clomid w/ Tormifene and if you want Nolva w/ Raloxifene and an AI (Aromasin). He has also added IGF-1 LR3.

I'd say your approach of Tor + Nolva run concurrently + an AI 6oxo will work very well. However if you use IGF-1 LR3 as well I'll bet you will feel fully restored within the first 2 weeks of the protocol.

Keep your chin up bro. You can get your sexual function and libido back...it will happen for sure.
 

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It doesn't appear that you ever ran a proper post cycle therapy.

Also keep in mind that sometimes you do have to repeat a complete post cycle therapy protocol to feel fully restored. There is nothing harmful in running a post cycle therapy again.

In my opinion you should look to what has proven to work time and time again for a lot of serious steroid users. Based off of Pheendo's fine research many many years ago an approach involving two SERMs w/ different modes of action and an AI should work well.

His protocol involved using Clomid concurrent w/ low dose Nolva plus Aromasin.

Chaos has updated the approach with the use of better SERMS. He has replaced Clomid w/ Tormifene and if you want Nolva w/ Raloxifene and an AI (Aromasin). He has also added IGF-1 LR3.

I'd say your approach of Tor + Nolva run concurrently + an AI 6oxo will work very well. However if you use IGF-1 LR3 as well I'll bet you will feel fully restored within the first 2 weeks of the protocol.

Keep your chin up bro. You can get your sexual function and libido back...it will happen for sure.


I'm not trying to run IGF, but as for tor, nolva and 6oxo, how do you recommend dosing?
 
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I'm not trying to run IGF, but as for tor, nolva and 6oxo, how do you recommend dosing?
If it were my libido...and it often is considering I am twice your age and have come off of long cycles I would make damn sure to run IGF-1 LR3. If you don't already know how effective this peptide is in post cycle therapy then you need to get off of this board and go to those boards where such things are discussed.

If I were you I'd run:

week 1: 120mg raloxifene/180mg toremifene/12.5mg aromisin

week 2: 80mg ralox/ 120mg tor/12.5mg aromisin

weeks 3-4: 40mg ralox/60mg tor/6.25mg aromisin

IGF throughout (daily or any other legitimate protocol)
With Nolva substituted for Ralox just start higher at say 40mg and ramp down to 20mg.

As for an AI...it would be better to run Aromisin. It is not JUST an AI it is a steroid w/ properties that will help you recover and there is less likelihood of Estrogen rebound.

No matter what anyone says on this board Tor is not a replacement for Nolva it is more of a replacement for Clomid.
 

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What ph did you take out of curiosity? This is a tough situation to give advice on. Also I'm confused on when you ran the Nolvadex. Was it after the origional post cycle therapy? If so (meaning if you ran a serm after the RR/JW), you may be a candidate for TRT, sorry friend. However, you probrably have some options before you go that route.
A candidate for trt at 22 come on now,you must really be psychotic and delusional as well.Time in and of itself should help along with the use of a SERM.Don't panic and relax cause stress alone can impede function/performance.Good luck.
 

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