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Animal Pak

ReaperX

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Well after talking about this yesterday, I decided to look it up and see what it is about. The 'paks' are tremendously underdosed and very overpriced. On top of it, I usually like to take a look at the 'zinc' they use on a multi, this will typically indicate if it is worth it or garbage.

Animal Pak uses 'Zinc Oxide' which is probably one of the worst. Higher quality vitamins use 'Zinc Chelate' or 'Zinc mono,etc...etc'.

So yeah, save your money on this crap.
 
care to share why zinc oxide is the worst?

Im not trying to rag on you but its just that you make alot of blanket statements with no real backing.
 
Huh. I thought Animal Pak was these.....
 

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care to share why zinc oxide is the worst?

Im not trying to rag on you but its just that you make alot of blanket statements with no real backing.

I've read this too, but I'm having trouble locating the reference right now. I also had the same impression of Animal Pak. Overpriced. You're better off doubling up on Centrum.

I'll try to find that article. It was a general examination of what's in a good multi-v and what to look for to spot overpriced, less effective versions. Zinc Oxide was one of the things to look for.
 
well chelated ingredients always are a plus when choosing a multi.

Some people are just magnets for the mainstream supplements which are generally overpriced. Its like the lipo6, animal pak, noxplode, cell-tech suckers falling for the same crap over and over.
 
well chelated ingredients always are a plus when choosing a multi.

Some people are just magnets for the mainstream supplements which are generally overpriced. Its like the lipo6, animal pak, noxplode, cell-tech suckers falling for the same crap over and over.

Yeah, exactly. I think the Animal Pak can be lumped in with those. And The Strap. Don't ever forget The Strap.
 
I have been using animal pak for several months now and have noticed I feel alot better while taking it, I have tried centrum and the generic version of it as well, the GNC mega and some other multi's. I agree that animal pak is expensive, but it works really good for me- I don't know about the zinc thing though...what other good multi's are there (it seems like every company has one now.)
 
I have been using animal pak for several months now and have noticed I feel alot better while taking it, I have tried centrum and the generic version of it as well, the GNC mega and some other multi's. I agree that animal pak is expensive, but it works really good for me- I don't know about the zinc thing though...what other good multi's are there (it seems like every company has one now.)

I like NOW Foods "Adam" multi-vitamin.
 
AST's Multipro 32X

It is cheap and good. If I ever travel out of town, I usually never bring any supps except this.
 
I havn't tried the NOW Adam yet, but have read that alot of people like it. I have tried the AST brand, I have to say that I like animal pak better though.
 
pistonpump; said:
care to share why zinc oxide is the worst? ....

It has to do with a combination of bioavailability and possible harsh impact on stomach lining (reduced by ingesting zinc oxide or zinc sulfate with food).

As you are aware, the cellular utilization of minerals in food is a fairly complicated process. First, the minerals must be extracted from food; then transported through the intestinal membranes and blood stream; and finally through the cell membrane into the cell interiors. This process is problematic. The most difficult chain is the intestinal wall. The cellular lining of the intestinal wall holds a negative charge on the surface of the membrane, whereas minerals already dissolved in digestive fluid have lost their neutral charge and gained a positive charge. These minerals will consequently be attracted to the cell membrane and be bound tightly there. Unable to pass through, these minerals will remain on the membrane until they are flushed away by secretion.

Chelation changes all this dramatically for some of the minerals. Chelators, organic molecules with electrical charges arranged such that they attract the positively charged minerals, are able to absorb these minerals into a larger complex. With the minerals' positive charge protected by the larger chelator mloecule, the complex appears neutral or negatively charged, and will consequently not be held by the membrane as it passes through. This assures a dramatic increase in bioavailability, an outcome that cannot be matched by inorganic forms of given minerals.

Zinc is available in two broad forms: as inorganic substance or as chelated substance. Inorganic zinc is usually in the form of zinc oxide or zinc sulfate. These inorganic forms are generally regarded as relatively inferior to the chelated forms, as they are less bioavailable. Chelated zinc is significantly more bioavailable. To be fair, zinc methionine is an exception, as studies show that it has low bioavailability comparable to inorganic forms. The hypothesis here is that the bond is not strong enough to survive the upper GI tract.

Now, as you know, for zinc to be absorbed into the body, it needs to be linked first to other substances. This is the motivation for supplement manufacturers to produce supplements containing zinc in a "chelated" form, where chelated simply means connected with another molecule.

There are two categories of chelates for zinc: organic acids and amino acids.
Organic acid chelates include picolinic acid, orotic acid, citric acid and gluconic acid. Correspondingly, the zinc forms here will be zinc picolinate, zinc orotate, zinc citrate, and zinc gluconate. Amino acid chelates include methionine, monomethionine, and aspartic acid. The corresponding zinc forms here are zinc methionine, zinc monomethionine, or zinc aspartate.

Chelated zinc is fundamentally superior to inorganic zinc.

Picolinic acid, produced from the amino acid tryptophan in the liver and kidneys and transported to the pancreas, is the body's prime natural chelator. The body constructs this molecule because it is the most efficient chelator for minerals such as chromium, zinc, manganese, copper, iron, and perhaps molybdenum. Consequently, some researchers consider zinc picolinate the most bioavailable form of zinc.
 
ive usind animal pak in the past and it worked great, but to pricey. it has 100% daily intake for pretty much everything.a,b,c,d,e,f etc lol
 
i used ON opti-men for like 2 years straight..great for the price and lasts long. Then i went with MHP multi...too pricey as well. Im taking Orange Triad now, seems like its a keeper. With that being said i think im gonna save money and not take a multi for a while to see if i notice a change. (i eat alot and a balanced diet anyway)
 
I have a bottle of Orange Triad for down the road. My wife was cool and bought me a years worth of NOW ADAM - which I'm really liking. I may check the TRIAD out in a month or so when I start my new, never before tried, ultimate cycle. I should be pretty far ahead in rehab to start it and really push my ACL then.

NOW ADAM is a great vitamin!

i used ON opti-men for like 2 years straight..great for the price and lasts long. Then i went with MHP multi...too pricey as well. Im taking Orange Triad now, seems like its a keeper. With that being said i think im gonna save money and not take a multi for a while to see if i notice a change. (i eat alot and a balanced diet anyway)
 
The MVP/ZMK combo!
 
SilentBob187; said:
That's how I'm rolling right now, it's wicked awesome.
Worth every cent!
 
Mo250; said:
AOR ortho-core or LEF mix
LEF Mix is, in my opinion, the most complete and advanced multivitamin product far and wide, but you need very deep pockets to sustain its consumption month after month...
 
Mo250; said:
not to mention that it has a poor form of Vitamin E.
I would not consider "D-alpha tocopheryl succinate" a poor form of vitamin E. I would agree, though, that the entire tocopherol complex is not available in LE Mix. This was intended anyway, as LE recommends another product, LE Super Booster, to augment the LE Mix. Super Booster contains compounds in lipid forms that do not "fit" into the LE Mix. Both packs make the LE-Mix concept even more expensive, though!
 
I would not consider "D-alpha tocopheryl succinate" a poor form of vitamin E. I would agree, though, that the entire tocopherol complex is not available in LE Mix. This was intended anyway, as LE recommends another product, LE Super Booster, to augment the LE Mix. Super Booster contains compounds in lipid forms that do not "fit" into the LE Mix. Both packs make the LE-Mix concept even more expensive, though!

true . I'm using AOR's new ortho-core formula. but otherwise both companies have a very good reputation.
 
that might be going a little overboard lol. comparing animalpak to the strap? COME ON now

Yeah, you're right. The Strap is really in a category all its own. I think that category is titled:

"You're Better Off Doing Curls With Your Own Turds Than Buying This"
 
i use my local grocery store brand multi with a cod liver oil supp. Its only about 3 quid for a months worth. Everyone keeps telling me how handsome i now look :toofunny:
 
I hate to be a dissenting opinion but I love Pak, I am on it year round (pretty much) I feel better on it than any others
 
Reaper329; said:
I hate to be a dissenting opinion but I love Pak, I am on it year round (pretty much) I feel better on it than any others
There is nothing wrong with expressing a dissenting opinion. It's just that your current position completely contradicts your original post (#1). What changed?
 
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