Best supp to limit fatgain during a bulk
- 10-03-2007, 09:30 PM
- 10-03-2007, 09:34 PM
heres my recommendation. A Super clean diet . no supplement will keep fat from coming if you plan on dirty bulking with weight lost supplements. doesnt work that way. I dont think you need a fat lost supplement in my opinion on a bulk. I tried it, someone told me it hinders your gains, I saw it as well. clean diet = best way to limit fat.
- 10-03-2007, 09:34 PM
rpm should help with that to some extent, but other then that im thinking an anti-cort would be good, it wont hinder any gains like some fat burners might.
10-03-2007, 09:34 PM
Sesathin hands down. Perfect for use on a bulk.
10-03-2007, 09:35 PM
10-03-2007, 09:39 PM
My diet is pretty clean. The majority of my calories come from lean meats, oats, fruits/vegs and whole wheat bread. I understand diet is number 1...but I want to gain weight somewhat quickly, so I'm eating pretty far over maintinence. I'm looking for anything thatd be helpful. As far as anti-cort...whats the best one of these?
10-03-2007, 09:40 PM
10-03-2007, 09:46 PM
haha gotta use all my resources...thanks for the help though
10-03-2007, 09:48 PM
Use a anti cort. Retain 2 is pretty popular round these parts. I liked it alot. It tok awhile to notcie near end but it did put up results.
10-03-2007, 09:56 PM
10-03-2007, 09:58 PM
10-03-2007, 10:07 PM
Desides RPM / DRIVE... no other supplement - just get your macro's right. Between the two already online supplements, you should see an increase in LBF - and some shedding from the lower abdomen.
10-03-2007, 10:08 PM
10-03-2007, 10:11 PM
Thanks all for the advice. I'll just stick with rPM and DRIVE and keep a strict hold on my calories. Its tough finding that perfect number that makes most of your gains LBM as opposed to fat. Ty for saving me some funds.
10-03-2007, 10:14 PM
10-03-2007, 10:25 PM
10-03-2007, 10:31 PM
10-03-2007, 10:34 PM
I suggested that...me...ME....ME! haha just kidding i dont care. But yea def throw one of them into the already well thought stack.
10-03-2007, 10:35 PM
10-03-2007, 10:38 PM
I'm sayin a cort control is worth it. Leviathin has nothign but good reviews and DCP is awesome too everyone says. They just ran a special as the 2 together. Theres is def alot to choose from ot there, hit up the log section for recomps and cuts. Best way to tell.
10-04-2007, 07:20 AM
Sesathin. Yellowgold or gxr. x-lean or Lean Xtreme
10-04-2007, 07:49 AM
blue-up / x-lean / YG / xtend / smash
10-04-2007, 08:09 AM
10-04-2007, 09:12 AM
cort reducing supplements are most effective during a calorie restrictive phase as the stress of being in a calorie deficit causes body cortisol levels to rise.
during a bulk, where calorie intake is adequate, cortisol levels are naturally lower due to the lower stress levels. might be a waste of product.
i do like the idea of any nutrient re-partitioning supplements during a bulk like mentioned (YG, pslin, AP).
10-04-2007, 09:35 AM
Sesamin and abliderate are a great repartioning combination. I used them together when cheating during a cut, with great results at limiting fat gain, even when drinking beer in large amounts, enjoying pizza, etc.
10-04-2007, 10:11 AM
10-04-2007, 10:20 AM
10-04-2007, 04:30 PM
Dude have you tried watching your sugar?
10-04-2007, 04:37 PM
What about RAVAGE? LOL Has anyone else read their write-up? Man, that's the biggest bunch of BS!
Nick, in all seriousness - stick with RPM / DRIVE combo and watch your macro's. I mean you're trying to bulk, so try and stick to clean calories and watch how late you eat carbs. Bulking does cause some BF increase, but you can lesson it by a strict regimine of meals and smart snacks. Good luck to you brother!
10-04-2007, 04:40 PM
does sesamin effect testosterone and gh like some claim or is that just bs? it seems like an effective product from what i have read around here.
since i am on the subject now, how do you guys dose it? also, should you take it with meals that don't contain efa, so it doesn't oxidize the good fats?
10-04-2007, 04:41 PM
10-04-2007, 04:41 PM
havn't read any of the other posts, but I will give you the answer.
During a bulk you will be in a caloric surplus (I would hope). To limit fat gain, don't get lazy trying to meet your caloric mark for the day and make those cals clean. Biggest tendency during a bulk is to get dirty, don't do that and your fat gain will be minimal.
10-04-2007, 07:31 PM
PS Haven't seen you post in a while Matt but I've probably been too busy with school. I'll check out your log in a bit, I'm running one right now too thats about to get some updating.
10-04-2007, 07:38 PM
Nutrient repartitioners are ideal for this situation. Any form of ALA, AP, SesaThin, and ecdy, believe or not. My friends and I have used AP and ecdy during bulking and the fat gain is minimal and we have both put on more muscle than previous bulks.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
10-04-2007, 07:42 PM
10-04-2007, 07:45 PM
10-04-2007, 07:46 PM
10-04-2007, 07:48 PM
Nobody uses high dose CLA? The glut4's are great for a few weeks, but then they just seem to play out completely. Gotta add a real burner. The anti-corts do best on paper when dieting, and indeed muscle sparing is most punctuated when dieting, but fat reduction and reduction of fat storage are definitely still there when bulking, it is very apparent with higher doses. A general stim (anything with caffeine) is always a must too, dieting, bulking, whatever.
10-04-2007, 07:49 PM
That means when we try to bring something affordable AND effective out, we have to fight against the negative impressions people already have.
I am also a fan of super-high dose Methoxy/ipriflavone, which is another one of these.
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10-04-2007, 07:49 PM
I still say just keep your macro's right - and eat clean calories.
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