Meth Positive AGAIN
- 10-01-2007, 06:42 PM
Meth Positive AGAIN
Ok so I've tested positive for methamphetimines AGAIN. I didn't stop taking my supplements before the test, just to make sure that the test wasn't faulty. Obviously, one of the supplements I take has been tainted with something that comes up positive as meth.
Is it possible that the Toremifine was tainted? What else would a research company sell that would throw a false positive?Clenbuterol, Albuterol or Liothyronine? Something?
I don't want to have to stop taking the Torem in the middle of my PCT, but I'll have to if its tainted. BAH
Any ideas? I've got to get to the bottom of this! Other than the Toremifine, I'm taking XLean and Cissus. I JUST started Drive, so I know that's not it. I hadn't taken the Epistane in a week, so I don't think that was tainted.
I have taken the drug test as a good faith gesture showing that I'm not on drugs for an upcoming court case. This doesn't help my case! haha
- 10-01-2007, 06:54 PM
- 10-01-2007, 06:59 PM
bummer dude. if the test is really important i would stop taking all supps until after the test. how far in to pct r u and how long was your epi cycle? i can understand your reasoning for not wanting to throw your pct down the drain but u have anything on hand to use instead of the torem? clomi or tomox handy?
10-01-2007, 07:00 PM
10-01-2007, 07:08 PM
whoa, this is scary stuff! I hope you get to the bottom of this bro. I take supps and get random drug tests as well.
10-01-2007, 07:14 PM
Best of luck with this hard situation, I would say demand a different lab does the test, and switch to an alternate PCT ASAP.
10-01-2007, 07:21 PM
Edwards...I already told you that meth will not do your body anygood!:bb3: So clean up your kitchen and get rid of the stuff!!!
10-01-2007, 07:22 PM
10-01-2007, 07:54 PM
Heres a list of substances that will cause a false positive
Ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, propylephedrine, phenylephrine, or desoxyephedrine
(Nyquil, Contact, Sudafed, Allerest, Tavist-D, Dimetapp, etc)
Phenegan-D, Robitussin Cold and Flu, Vicks Nyquil
Over-the-counter diet aids with phenylpropanolamine (Dexatrim, Accutrim)
Over-the-counter nasal sprays (Vicks inhaler, Afrin)
Asthma medications (Marax, Bronkaid tablets, Primatine Tablets)
(Clenbuterol? or Albuterol????? - i added this here)
Prescription medications (Adderall, Amfepramone, Cathne, Etafediabe, Morazone,
...phendimetrazine, phenmetrazine, benzphetamine, fenfluramine, dexfenfluramine,
...dexdenfluramine,Redux, mephentermine, Mesocarb, methoxyphenamine, phentermine,
... amineptine, Pholedrine, hydroymethamphetamine, Dexedrine, amifepramone, clobenzorex,
...fenproyorex, mefenorex, fenelylline, Didrex, dextroamphetamine, methphenidate, Ritalin,
...pemoline, Cylert, selegiline, Deprenyl, Eldepryl, Famprofazone)
Kidney infection, kidney disease
Liver disease, diabetes
I bet you anything that my Tormifene is tainted since the research company I got it from also sells Clen or Albut. BAH I dont' have $50 to shell out for Dermicrine Sustain
10-01-2007, 07:59 PM
I would bet it is the albuterol, because i beleive fast acting inhalers that have such substances for asthma are basically speed anyways. I recently was tested and had just started taking albuterol, luckily my test wasn't until two days later, but i passed. Best thing maybe just say you used someones inhaler, if they do an analysis they should be able to tell that more or less exactly what you took if they know what to look for, though that will probably only work once unless you can get a prescrition for it.
10-01-2007, 08:01 PM
I have been taking the Torem for 9 days. I was on Epi for a total of 4 weeks. I was "on" cycle for 8 however, first on Halodrol50 then Epi for the remainder. So although I dont' think I'm totally shut down, I don't want to cut things short.
Bah, I'm gonna have to order the Derm.
10-01-2007, 10:25 PM
10-01-2007, 10:35 PM
That's what I was thinking. Those bastads didn't wash their equipment or something and I ended up with tainted SERM. Oh well. I orderedSustain. Thankfully the company is offering 10% off. So I hope I'll get it by Wednesday. That will give me a few days off the Torem before my next test. Thankfully I am the one getting the tests done and not the court. Otherwise I'd be back in the slammer.
10-01-2007, 11:30 PM
if its the torem that is tainted by either clen or albuteral i would think that only a VERY small amount would actually get in to the torem and i would think that after putting it in your body it would be so diluted that it would be extremely hard to detect. but who knows, it is also very possible, some of those research companies are a little shady and seem irresponsible.
10-02-2007, 01:03 AM
10-02-2007, 01:08 AM
This is just the reason for the important reminder that "Product is not for Human Consumption."
Derm Sustain should do you well - I used in my last PCT and greatly enjoyed it. Bounced me back rather nicely!
10-02-2007, 01:32 AM
Man, I think you might be stuck with those metabolites for some time, I don't know if a few days will do it.
10-02-2007, 01:47 AM
Xlean contains Ma Huang (Ephedra) which has been key component of ancient Chinese medicine and has been used for centuries to help the body by promoting energy and health. xlean or
Xlean follows this tradition with a precise 10mg to 100mg ratio of ephedrine and caffeine, this is the same 1 to 10 ratio used in scientific research studies.
It is the xlean. ephedra is what Ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, propylephedrine, phenylephrine, or desoxyephedrine all come from. no friggin wonder youre getting a false positive. use your head man...jesus
10-02-2007, 03:30 AM
I doubt it's the Tor but you can have it analyzed if you wish. If I were a betting man then I'd bet it's the stimulants causing the false positive. Just lay-off them for a while and hit up some L-Tyrosine, B-Complex, and perhaps even rhodiola to come off stims if you need them.
10-02-2007, 05:46 AM
10-02-2007, 07:14 AM
10-02-2007, 07:40 AM
10-02-2007, 08:16 AM
10-02-2007, 08:30 AM
If it were me I would stop ALL supplements and NOT start with anything new. I wouldn't risk a court case HOPING a different oral or even a non oral sup wont test you positive.
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10-02-2007, 09:24 AM
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10-02-2007, 11:04 AM
10-02-2007, 11:17 AM
10-02-2007, 11:20 AM
10-02-2007, 12:31 PM
10-02-2007, 12:42 PM
10-02-2007, 12:47 PM
10-02-2007, 12:51 PM
They should rename it MethSTack!
MethSTAK - Don't let a pesky thing like SLEEP get in the way of your WORKOUTS!
It seems like it takes 1-4 days to get out of your system. I should be fine by Friday. I'll keep everyone posted.
10-02-2007, 01:19 PM
10-02-2007, 01:47 PM
10-02-2007, 02:42 PM
10-02-2007, 03:03 PM
So it's not the torm that you think caused the false positive? I have a drug test for this new job next week and am currently taking torm after being on epistane for a couple of weeks. Should I discontinue eventhough I'm in the middle of my PCT until after the test?
P.S. I really gotta get this job lol.
10-02-2007, 03:20 PM
I really think it is the Speed Stack. I don't think the small amount of Torem solution I take daily would contain enough tainted material to cause a false positive.
10-02-2007, 03:25 PM
you just need to drink more water throughout the day b4 you take the test... there are cut offs for every drug they test for so if you dilute your piss a little you won't have any issues
i'v been tested by probation taking clen, ephedrine, albuterol, tamoxifen, cabergoline... just about everything and have never had a problem, not sure what happened with you bro
10-02-2007, 03:35 PM
Anyone ever consider the possibility that your girlfriend or someone close to you is slightly drugging you? What company let youtake the test so many times until you pass it? Why not just hand you the job? Are you using one of those home use kits that you brought from a drug store? If so, what was the reason for it? I have used almost everthing that you have used, and I passed the urine/ blood test for Police Academy, but couldnt pass the psychiatric evaluation.
10-02-2007, 03:54 PM
I don't think anyone would purposely drug me. I am taking the test because I have an upcoming court case. My lawyer wanted me to get tested so that he could show the judge that I am clean. I spoke with my M.D. who ordered the tests from the hospital lab. Without getting into too much detail, thats the crux of it.
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