Meth Positive AGAIN

[edwards]

Ok so I've tested positive for methamphetimines AGAIN. I didn't stop taking my supplements before the test, just to make sure that the test wasn't faulty. Obviously, one of the supplements I take has been tainted with something that comes up positive as meth.


Is it possible that the Toremifine was tainted? What else would a research company sell that would throw a false positive?Clenbuterol, Albuterol or Liothyronine? Something?

I don't want to have to stop taking the Torem in the middle of my PCT, but I'll have to if its tainted. BAH

Any ideas? I've got to get to the bottom of this! Other than the Toremifine, I'm taking XLean and Cissus. I JUST started Drive, so I know that's not it. I hadn't taken the Epistane in a week, so I don't think that was tainted.

I have taken the drug test as a good faith gesture showing that I'm not on drugs for an upcoming court case. This doesn't help my case! haha

 

[cmp007]

I hope you find out soon man. Im on the same stuff and I get random drug tests for work

 

[heebs10]

bummer dude. if the test is really important i would stop taking all supps until after the test. how far in to pct r u and how long was your epi cycle? i can understand your reasoning for not wanting to throw your pct down the drain but u have anything on hand to use instead of the torem? clomi or tomox handy?

 

[rugger48]

try reading this.


http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=497244

 

[Hyde12]

whoa, this is scary stuff! I hope you get to the bottom of this bro. I take supps and get random drug tests as well.

 

[nelix]

Best of luck with this hard situation, I would say demand a different lab does the test, and switch to an alternate PCT ASAP.

 

[Ronnie]

Edwards...I already told you that meth will not do your body anygood!:bb3: So clean up your kitchen and get rid of the stuff!!!

 

[matthew76]

Derm Sustain!

 

[edwards]

Heres a list of substances that will cause a false positive

Ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, propylephedrine, phenylephrine, or desoxyephedrine
(Nyquil, Contact, Sudafed, Allerest, Tavist-D, Dimetapp, etc)

Phenegan-D, Robitussin Cold and Flu, Vicks Nyquil

Over-the-counter diet aids with phenylpropanolamine (Dexatrim, Accutrim)
Over-the-counter nasal sprays (Vicks inhaler, Afrin)

Asthma medications (Marax, Bronkaid tablets, Primatine Tablets)

(Clenbuterol? or Albuterol????? - i added this here)

Prescription medications (Adderall, Amfepramone, Cathne, Etafediabe, Morazone,
...phendimetrazine, phenmetrazine, benzphetamine, fenfluramine, dexfenfluramine,
...dexdenfluramine,Redux, mephentermine, Mesocarb, methoxyphenamine, phentermine,
... amineptine, Pholedrine, hydroymethamphetamine, Dexedrine, amifepramone, clobenzorex,
...fenproyorex, mefenorex, fenelylline, Didrex, dextroamphetamine, methphenidate, Ritalin,
...pemoline, Cylert, selegiline, Deprenyl, Eldepryl, Famprofazone)
Kidney infection, kidney disease
Liver disease, diabetes

I bet you anything that my Tormifene is tainted since the research company I got it from also sells Clen or Albut. BAH I dont' have $50 to shell out for Dermicrine Sustain

 

[syxx]

I would bet it is the albuterol, because i beleive fast acting inhalers that have such substances for asthma are basically speed anyways. I recently was tested and had just started taking albuterol, luckily my test wasn't until two days later, but i passed. Best thing maybe just say you used someones inhaler, if they do an analysis they should be able to tell that more or less exactly what you took if they know what to look for, though that will probably only work once unless you can get a prescrition for it.

 

[edwards]

I have been taking the Torem for 9 days. I was on Epi for a total of 4 weeks. I was "on" cycle for 8 however, first on Halodrol50 then Epi for the remainder. So although I dont' think I'm totally shut down, I don't want to cut things short.

Bah, I'm gonna have to order the Derm.

 

[Irish Cannon]

Dude that sucks supa bad. According to your research, it does look like the albuterol.

 

[edwards]

That's what I was thinking. Those bastads didn't wash their equipment or something and I ended up with tainted SERM. Oh well. I ordered Dermacrine Sustain. Thankfully the company is offering 10% off. So I hope I'll get it by Wednesday. That will give me a few days off the Torem before my next test. Thankfully I am the one getting the tests done and not the court. Otherwise I'd be back in the slammer.

 

[heebs10]

if its the torem that is tainted by either clen or albuteral i would think that only a VERY small amount would actually get in to the torem and i would think that after putting it in your body it would be so diluted that it would be extremely hard to detect. but who knows, it is also very possible, some of those research companies are a little shady and seem irresponsible.

 

[MentalTwitch]

if its the torem that is tainted by either clen or albuteral i would think that only a VERY small amount would actually get in to the torem and i would think that after putting it in your body it would be so diluted that it would be extremely hard to detect. but who knows, it is also very possible, some of those research companies are a little shady and seem irresponsible.

I thought clen had a long half life? if that matters...sorry i find this interesting though. This thread is very good for future reference

 

[matthew76]

This is just the reason for the important reminder that "Product is not for Human Consumption."

Derm Sustain should do you well - I used in my last PCT and greatly enjoyed it. Bounced me back rather nicely!

 

[nelix]

Man, I think you might be stuck with those metabolites for some time, I don't know if a few days will do it.

 

[jomi822]

Xlean contains Ma Huang (Ephedra) which has been key component of ancient Chinese medicine and has been used for centuries to help the body by promoting energy and health. xlean or x-lean

Xlean follows this tradition with a precise 10mg to 100mg ratio of ephedrine and caffeine, this is the same 1 to 10 ratio used in scientific research studies.


It is the xlean. ephedra is what Ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, propylephedrine, phenylephrine, or desoxyephedrine all come from. no friggin wonder youre getting a false positive. use your head man...jesus

 

[Iron Warrior]

I doubt it's the Tor but you can have it analyzed if you wish. If I were a betting man then I'd bet it's the stimulants causing the false positive. Just lay-off them for a while and hit up some L-Tyrosine, B-Complex, and perhaps even rhodiola to come off stims if you need them.

 

[Hyde12]

Xlean contains Ma Huang (Ephedra) which has been key component of ancient Chinese medicine and has been used for centuries to help the body by promoting energy and health. xlean or x-lean

Xlean follows this tradition with a precise 10mg to 100mg ratio of ephedrine and caffeine, this is the same 1 to 10 ratio used in scientific research studies.


It is the xlean. ephedra is what Ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, propylephedrine, phenylephrine, or desoxyephedrine all come from. no friggin wonder youre getting a false positive. use your head man...jesus

That will do it for sure. This is why I don't take ephedrine anymore.

 

[wojo]

um x-lean by ibe is Androstenetriol, 7-beta-hydroxy-DHEA.is there another x-lean i dont know about?

 

[nelix]

xlean is not the same as x-lean i guess?

 

[edwards]

Xlean contains Ma Huang (Ephedra) which has been key component of ancient Chinese medicine and has been used for centuries to help the body by promoting energy and health. xlean or x-lean

Xlean follows this tradition with a precise 10mg to 100mg ratio of ephedrine and caffeine, this is the same 1 to 10 ratio used in scientific research studies.


It is the xlean. ephedra is what Ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, propylephedrine, phenylephrine, or desoxyephedrine all come from. no friggin wonder youre getting a false positive. use your head man...jesus

I take X Lean by IBE. The ingredients are Androstenetriol, 7-beta-hydroxy-DHEA.
I don't see any mention of Ma Huang, unless I'm missing something.

 

[CROWLER]

If it were me I would stop ALL supplements and NOT start with anything new. I wouldn't risk a court case HOPING a different oral or even a non oral sup wont test you positive.


CROWLER

 

[edwards]

I had one of these a day or so before both tests. :frustrate It doesn't have ephedra in it, but maybe has something else.

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[matthew76]

X-Lean does NOT have any Ephedra in it.

Xlean contains Ma Huang (Ephedra) which has been key component of ancient Chinese medicine and has been used for centuries to help the body by promoting energy and health. xlean or x-lean

Xlean follows this tradition with a precise 10mg to 100mg ratio of ephedrine and caffeine, this is the same 1 to 10 ratio used in scientific research studies.


It is the xlean. ephedra is what Ephedrine, pseudoephedrine, propylephedrine, phenylephrine, or desoxyephedrine all come from. no friggin wonder youre getting a false positive. use your head man...jesus

 

[nelix]

the website for xlean (NOT x-lean!) says it has ma hung in it.
google for "xlean" and see.

 

[matthew76]

:think:

the website for xlean (NOT x-lean!) says it has ma hung in it.
google for "xlean" and see.

:yawn:

 

[xjsynx]

...Kidney infection, kidney disease
Liver disease, diabetes

I bet you anything that my Tormifene is tainted since the research company I got it from also sells Clen or Albut. BAH I dont' have $50 to shell out for Dermicrine Sustain

Well, hopefully it isn't any of the latter on the list.

 

[bioman]

Well, it does say "Speed" stack so go figure. lol

 

[matthew76]

I think we are "fooled" by some supplement companies wording and do not ever think something actually may indeed have some form of the names "effects."

Well, it does say "Speed" stack so go figure. lol

 

[edwards]

They should rename it MethSTack!

MethSTAK - Don't let a pesky thing like SLEEP get in the way of your WORKOUTS!

It seems like it takes 1-4 days to get out of your system. I should be fine by Friday. I'll keep everyone posted.

 

[bioman]

The effects are tweaker-ific!

Lame, I know.

 

[datBtrue]

try reading this.


http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=497244

:goodpost:

Good link Rugger. Thank you for providing it. It turned out to be vey useful for edwards as it provided him with "substances that could possibly cause a false positive".

 

[edwards]

:goodpost:

Good link Rugger. Thank you for providing it. It turned out to be vey useful for edwards as it provided him with "substances that could possibly cause a false positive".

agreed. i hit him up with some reps for it. thanks again rugger :head: :head: :head:

 

[BOHICA]

So it's not the torm that you think caused the false positive? I have a drug test for this new job next week and am currently taking torm after being on epistane for a couple of weeks. Should I discontinue eventhough I'm in the middle of my PCT until after the test?

P.S. I really gotta get this job lol.

 

[edwards]

I really think it is the Speed Stack. I don't think the small amount of Torem solution I take daily would contain enough tainted material to cause a false positive.

 

[Movin_weight]

you just need to drink more water throughout the day b4 you take the test... there are cut offs for every drug they test for so if you dilute your piss a little you won't have any issues

i'v been tested by probation taking clen, ephedrine, albuterol, tamoxifen, cabergoline... just about everything and have never had a problem, not sure what happened with you bro

 

[Grimmy]

you just need to drink more water throughout the day b4 you take the test... there are cut offs for every drug they test for so if you dilute your piss a little you won't have any issues

i'v been tested by probation taking clen, ephedrine, albuterol, tamoxifen, cabergoline... just about everything and have never had a problem, not sure what happened with you bro

I have many questions for you Edward...
Anyone ever consider the possibility that your girlfriend or someone close to you is slightly drugging you?:head: What company let youtake the test so many times until you pass it? Why not just hand you the job? Are you using one of those home use kits that you brought from a drug store? If so, what was the reason for it? I have used almost everthing that you have used, and I passed the urine/ blood test for Police Academy, but couldnt pass the psychiatric evaluation. :icon_lol:

 

[edwards]

I don't think anyone would purposely drug me. I am taking the test because I have an upcoming court case. My lawyer wanted me to get tested so that he could show the judge that I am clean. I spoke with my M.D. who ordered the tests from the hospital lab. Without getting into too much detail, thats the crux of it.

 

[Frank Reynolds]

you just need to drink more water throughout the day b4 you take the test... there are cut offs for every drug they test for so if you dilute your piss a little you won't have any issues

i'v been tested by probation taking clen, ephedrine, albuterol, tamoxifen, cabergoline... just about everything and have never had a problem, not sure what happened with you bro

Pretty sure they will give you an inconclusive, and make you retest if your urine is too diluted.

My theory is the probation tests suck..lol My friend used to be on probation, and burn a fat ass blunt on the way to take his piss test, and never failed.LOL

 

[Movin_weight]

as long as creatinine levels are above 20 your good to go... and 90% of probation offices do the typical 5-panel test

Cannibus, alcohol, amphetamines, barbituates, sedatives is what they test for

As for your buddy, i dunno... either he is full of ****, they didn't test him, or his P.O. didn't care

 

[jomi822]

methamphetamine is made from ephedrine and its alkaloids. the alkaloids are found in ephedra....cough medicines...asthma medications..etc.

judging from the synphedrine in the speed stack, id stay the hell away from it prior to a test.

or just get a prescription of adderall.....edit

 

[Grimmy]

I don't think anyone would purposely drug me. I am taking the test because I have an upcoming court case. My lawyer wanted me to get tested so that he could show the judge that I am clean. I spoke with my M.D. who ordered the tests from the hospital lab. Without getting into too much detail, thats the crux of it.

So you have used this stuff in the past, am I right? I dont know much about recreational drugs, as I never considered taking any. One of my friends who plays semi-pro baseball (he is on steroids) passed the test using a fake penis of some sort. :toofunny:

 

[Jet]

So you have used this stuff in the past, am I right? I dont know much about recreational drugs, as I never considered taking any. One of my friends who plays semi-pro baseball (he is on steroids) passed the test using a fake penis of some sort. :toofunny:

A buddy of mine used on of those to pass a drug test once (not for anything serious, just a marijuana test.) Apparently they're pretty high tech. He said that it had heating pads on it and a light that turned on when it was the right temperature. I guess it's designed so even if someone is watching you, they aren't supposed to be able to tell the difference.

 

[jomi822]

its called the whizzenator

no im not kidding

 

[MentalTwitch]

its called the whizzenator

no im not kidding

There was some celb that got caught using it a year or so back. Not even clsoe to remmeebring his name but the fact it happend i remember, sad really.

 

[Grimmy]

its called the whizzenator

no im not kidding

I think that's the name of it, my friend said they even have different kinds for different ethnicities.


I would like an extra-small **** sir. :type: Lookie here :study: I got a small wanker.

 

[BOHICA]

Well stopped my Torm Wednesday, and took my piss test today.... so I guess I'll find out Tuesday or Wednesday if I'm a methhead.

 

[edwards]

So you have used this stuff in the past, am I right? I dont know much about recreational drugs, as I never considered taking any. One of my friends who plays semi-pro baseball (he is on steroids) passed the test using a fake penis of some sort. :toofunny:

Nope I've never used Meth. Just herb.